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Joel_Stewart

Mike Keiser wins the USGA Bob Jones Award
« on: March 03, 2025, 01:57:42 PM »

This is a big deal on many accounts.  Its rare the USGA gives the award to a non player or former USGA winner. 
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[/size]VILLAGE OF PINEHURST, N.C. (March 2, 2025) – The United States Golf Association (USGA) will present its highest honor, the Bob Jones Award, to Mike Keiser during U.S. Open Championship week in Pittsburgh this June. Presented annually since 1955, the award recognizes those who personify the character, sportsmanship and respect for the game as its champion namesake. [/color][/size]“What inspires us about Mike is his love for what is pure and good about the game, his investment in golf that’s open to the public, his drive to promote recreational golf and the joy he feels when he plays – and those strong connections have never wavered,” said Mike Whan, CEO of the USGA, who made the announcement at the USGA’s Annual Meeting at Pinehurst Resort & Country Club this weekend. “We’re grateful for the example he’s set, which pushes the entire industry to think bigger.”


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Tommy Williamsen

Re: Mike Keiser wins the USGA Bob Jones Award
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2025, 07:13:09 PM »
It is indeed a big deal. Keiser could have built private clubs like Sand Hills, but he has created resorts open to the public. They include all the Keiser-owned resorts and the Cabot courses. He deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.
« Last Edit: March 03, 2025, 08:31:03 PM by Tommy Williamsen »
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Matt Schoolfield

Re: Mike Keiser wins the USGA Bob Jones Award
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2025, 07:22:05 PM »
I definitely think Keiser is up there with Tiger Woods in how much he's affected golf. It's hard to understate the fact that he basically, single-handedly started the sea change in American golf culture that we are living through.

Niall C

Re: Mike Keiser wins the USGA Bob Jones Award
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2025, 07:32:42 AM »
It's hard to understate the fact that he basically, single-handedly started the sea change in American golf culture that we are living through.


"Single-handedly started the sea change" - how so ? Not at all looking to denigrate Mike Keiser but interested to find out what the sea change is that you refer to and how he started it all on his own.


Niall




Tommy Williamsen

Re: Mike Keiser wins the USGA Bob Jones Award
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2025, 07:58:46 AM »
It's hard to understate the fact that he basically, single-handedly started the sea change in American golf culture that we are living through.


"Single-handedly started the sea change" - how so ? Not at all looking to denigrate Mike Keiser but interested to find out what the sea change is that you refer to and how he started it all on his own.


Niall


I don't want to speak for Matt, but Keiser took a chance building a public waking-only course hours away from the nearest airport. That is a new American formula that has spread.
Where there is no love, put love; there you will find love.
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cary lichtenstein

Re: Mike Keiser wins the USGA Bob Jones Award
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2025, 08:12:00 AM »
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Adam Lawrence

Re: Mike Keiser wins the USGA Bob Jones Award
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2025, 08:48:19 AM »
It's hard to understate the fact that he basically, single-handedly started the sea change in American golf culture that we are living through.

"Single-handedly started the sea change" - how so ? Not at all looking to denigrate Mike Keiser but interested to find out what the sea change is that you refer to and how he started it all on his own.

Niall

I don't want to speak for Matt, but Keiser took a chance building a public waking-only course hours away from the nearest airport. That is a new American formula that has spread.


I don't disagree with your thesis Tommy, but for accuracy we should note that Bandon is thirty minutes from North Bend airport. I mean it's hardly O'Hare, but it's definitely an airport.
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Kalen Braley

Re: Mike Keiser wins the USGA Bob Jones Award
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2025, 11:05:25 AM »
The Pinehurst resort is nearly 2 hours from Charlotte.
The Monterey areas courses are 1.5 hours away from the closest airport...in good traffic.
And Koehler resort is an hour away from Milwaukee.

I don't doubt Mike certainly re-invented the resort genre and is certainly deserving of the recognition, but it was hardly a novel idea.

David_Tepper

Re: Mike Keiser wins the USGA Bob Jones Award
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2025, 12:08:56 PM »
Kalen -


Not to pick nits, but my guess is the airport in Monterey gets more air traffic (40 flights daily) than the airport in North Bend.


DT


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Matt Schoolfield

Re: Mike Keiser wins the USGA Bob Jones Award
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2025, 12:20:57 PM »
It's hard to understate the fact that he basically, single-handedly started the sea change in American golf culture that we are living through.
"Single-handedly started the sea change" - how so ? Not at all looking to denigrate Mike Keiser but interested to find out what the sea change is that you refer to and how he started it all on his own.

Niall
I don't want to speak for Matt, but Keiser took a chance building a public waking-only course hours away from the nearest airport. That is a new American formula that has spread.

There is an ethos that Keiser has that is extremely different from the prevailing golf formula. First, it's public, I won't waste my time with that part, the concept of a destination-style walking-only club as a public venue is a huge gamble because you're asking a lot of guests instead of catering to what they want.

More importantly, the style of golf here is what I find most interesting. He picks DMK, respectfully, a nobody, to build a course that is focused on the mid-handicapper, not "serious" players. On top of this, they do not using professional golf as marketing. I might be wrong, but the 2006 Curtis Cup is the first real professional event there and takes place on Pacific Dunes? I mean, both of these moves are an outright rejection of the standard model for even a resort, and resorts aren't the standard model.

This is all 11 years before Pinehurst finally rids itself of its ridiculous narrow fairways and thick rough. Projects like Old Mac and the Lido are exactly the kind of "we care about golf nerds, not professional golf fans," when prior to this era, professional tournaments had been the golf standard of your course being great (Whistling Straits secures the PGA championship in 2000, but it was certainly being negotiated immediately at opening).

This is a complete inversion of the model, and it's one that I think does more for golf culture by focusing on the median player, rather than the elite player (and at a significantly lower price point). They're not selling a luxury experience, it's something more akin to a rustic getaway. This appeals to a huge section of players that weren't previously being served, and I honestly think it's part of what facilitates much of the new golf media that needs quirky-but-accessible places to go.
« Last Edit: March 04, 2025, 12:27:33 PM by Matt Schoolfield »

David_Tepper

Re: Mike Keiser wins the USGA Bob Jones Award
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2025, 12:44:16 PM »
To take Matt's comments a little further, by seeking out heavily sand-based sites for Bandon and his other projects, Keiser introduced links and links-like golf to a wide segment of the US golfing public. He showed quality golf could be successful on its own, without the added attraction of luxury hotels, health spas,"gourmet" cuisine, etc. 

Kalen Braley

Re: Mike Keiser wins the USGA Bob Jones Award
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2025, 01:25:55 PM »
Matt,

If we go with the basic definition of luxury goods: "not necessary for living, but highly desirable and expensive" then Bandon and Mike's other resorts certainly are such, even if they aren't in the overly lavish and very expensive category like a Pebble.

For someone making the median wage in the US at ~60k per year, spending $400-500 for one round of golf (assuming they are close enough to do it this cheap) is still a big ask compared to 10+ rounds at their local muni for same cost.

Bernie Bell

Re: Mike Keiser wins the USGA Bob Jones Award
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2025, 01:33:36 PM »
Has this new model affected the grassroots local game, i.e., the one that does not require jet fuel? 

PCCraig

Re: Mike Keiser wins the USGA Bob Jones Award
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2025, 04:17:31 PM »
Has this new model affected the grassroots local game, i.e., the one that does not require jet fuel?


If you ask the resident golfers of Winter Park, Florida they would probably say yes.
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John Kavanaugh

Re: Mike Keiser wins the USGA Bob Jones Award
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2025, 04:31:06 PM »
Keiser is a personal hero of mine. To say anything less is a disgusting disparagement to the game.

Joel_Stewart

Re: Mike Keiser wins the USGA Bob Jones Award
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2025, 06:51:28 PM »
Has this new model affected the grassroots local game, i.e., the one that does not require jet fuel?


I would say yes.  Bandon opened in 1999.  Is it a coincidence that the restoration movement started about the same time and architects like C&C, Doak, Kidd, Hanse started to build more minimalistic or natural courses?   

Mike Wagner

Re: Mike Keiser wins the USGA Bob Jones Award
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2025, 07:42:53 PM »
The Pinehurst resort is nearly 2 hours from Charlotte.
The Monterey areas courses are 1.5 hours away from the closest airport...in good traffic.
And Koehler resort is an hour away from Milwaukee.

I don't doubt Mike certainly re-invented the resort genre and is certainly deserving of the recognition, but it was hardly a novel idea.


In 1998 you could have been from Oregon and never heard of Bandon.


Monterey airport is 10 minutes from Pebble.

Matt Schoolfield

Re: Mike Keiser wins the USGA Bob Jones Award
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2025, 09:46:29 PM »
sand-based sites
Yes, it seems obvious now how important this is, and there are other sandy resorts, but it really was a real focus where I really think at other places it was an afterthought.
If we go with the basic definition of luxury goods: "not necessary for living, but highly desirable and expensive" then Bandon and Mike's other resorts certainly are such, even if they aren't in the overly lavish and very expensive category like a Pebble.
If you want to argue semantics then I concede: my "luxury" is your "overly lavish."
For someone making the median wage in the US at ~60k per year, spending $400-500 for one round of golf (assuming they are close enough to do it this cheap) is still a big ask compared to 10+ rounds at their local muni for same cost.
Dynamic pricing means that I can drive to Bandon tomorrow, and I'd probably be able to play a round the next day for $250. It would be a long drive, and I'd likely have to play as a single and on whichever course they have an opening at, but it's really nothing like Pebble Beach Corp. It's luxury if you want it to be, but it's also open to folks like me who are happy to play if they're an opening on the way between SF and Portland, much like in Scotland, you can play St Andrews if you win the ballot, but you can really just pass through on your way to other spots. This really only works for folks in Seattle/Portland/Bay Area, but the idea of Dream Golf is that it's doable for regional folks, whereas, even though I get a "better deal" at Pebble for being NCGA, it's still stupid expensive, and I'll likely never play there when the Asilomar and Pacific Grove GL are just a step away.
Has this new model affected the grassroots local game, i.e., the one that does not require jet fuel?
I mean, for me, the biggest impact is GGPGC, which I don't think get's built if there isn't a sand-focused revival. That little course is just absurdly good for how laid back and cheap it is for residents. Blasi gained a lot of clout from Chambers Bay... does Chambers Bay even happen without Bandon? It definitely in the same genre. Even more difficult to say, but does Pinehurst No. 2 get restored as boldly if Bandon Trails isn't such a success? I certainly think that the opportunities probably helped, but who knows.

The world of golf looks a hell of a lot different then when Keiser got started. I think most people see Sand Hills as the first mover, but it's still a carts-only course that quite private, and is certainly not Dornoch-in-America that he set off to achieve.

Lou_Duran

Re: Mike Keiser wins the USGA Bob Jones Award
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2025, 11:06:20 AM »
Keiser is a personal hero of mine. To say anything less is a disgusting disparagement to the game.


Well-deserved award.  A pioneer for sure with a great eye for talent, product development, and market trends.


At the risk of angering JK, is Mr. Keiser also at least partially responsible for transforming the job of a caddie into a profession for older, mostly males?   

John Kavanaugh

Re: Mike Keiser wins the USGA Bob Jones Award
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2025, 11:22:02 AM »
I would blame the national scourge called “Travel Teams” for robbing the youth of our culture of the time to caddie. If you have the athletic ability to caddie for 18 holes you gonna make someone’s team.

Sven Nilsen

Re: Mike Keiser wins the USGA Bob Jones Award
« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2025, 11:22:40 AM »
Keiser is a personal hero of mine. To say anything less is a disgusting disparagement to the game.


Well-deserved award.  A pioneer for sure with a great eye for talent, product development, and market trends.


At the risk of angering JK, is Mr. Keiser also at least partially responsible for transforming the job of a caddie into a profession for older, mostly males?


Is it?  The average age of a caddie in the US is 34. 


There are places, like Bandon, where a caddie program cannot be supported simply by hiring only local high school aged kids. 


That being said, the Keiser's support of the Bandon caddie program has contributed to it becoming the preeminent professional non-tour caddie program in the country, if not the world.
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Forrest Richardson

Re: Mike Keiser wins the USGA Bob Jones Award
« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2025, 05:26:21 PM »
Well deserved. Mike ushered in a new era. Perhaps not the first, but with little doubt he put an exclamation mark behind the movement. BTW...The Bob Jones dinner is one of the best group dinners I've ever attended. The USGA does it right.
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Tom_Doak

Re: Mike Keiser wins the USGA Bob Jones Award
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2025, 06:38:13 PM »
Has this new model affected the grassroots local game, i.e., the one that does not require jet fuel?

I would say yes.  Bandon opened in 1999.  Is it a coincidence that the restoration movement started about the same time and architects like C&C, Doak, Kidd, Hanse started to build more minimalistic or natural courses?


You might be confusing the chicken and the egg.  Bill and Ben and I had all pretty much established our style of building courses by the time we got to Bandon; we just hadn't had nearly as good a setting to show it off.


I don't think the restoration movement had much to do with Bandon Dunes, either . . . although I do remember that when we had the member meeting at SFGC about restoring the three old holes, Sandy Tatum stood up and said they should trust us to do the work, because we had built Pacific Dunes.

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