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Ronald Montesano

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRnYO7n7cz8

I was gobsmacked at some of the comments that the fellows make, and also the things that they don't bring up. For example, two consecutive par-five holes, rather than adjacent par-five holes. Also, biggest green I've ever seen, rather than all the double greens add up to 18, and there are seven of them.

It's great insight into the mindset of well-known, amateur golfers who make money off their YouTube exploits; they know very little about golden-age golf course architecture. I'd love to see them on more classic courses, and follow their series of epiphanies. That's my hope for 2025.

Coming in 2025
~Robert Moses Pitch 'n Putt
~~Sag Harbor
~~~Chenango Valley
~~~~Sleepy Hollow
~~~~~Montauk Downs
~~~~~~Sunken Meadow
~~~~~~~Some other, posh joints ;)

Thomas Dai

I can sort of understand a new pay-n-play, resort development etc wanting the publicity that YouTube etc influencers like these may provide them with but TOC at St Andrews?

How would folks feel if they were at your club/course and you were playing behind them or even somewhere close to them?
Atb


Erik J. Barzeski

It's also possible they're "acting" a bit. I could see how they might act like "wow, that's amazing, I didn't know that?!" to better connect with their audience even though they knew it (whatever they were surprised by or "learned" in the moment).
Erik J. Barzeski @iacas
Author, Lowest Score Wins, Instructor/Coach, and Lifetime Student of the Game.

I generally ignore Rob, Tim, Garland, and Chris.

Brian Finn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRnYO7n7cz8

I was gobsmacked at some of the comments that the fellows make, and also the things that they don't bring up. For example, two consecutive par-five holes, rather than adjacent par-five holes. Also, biggest green I've ever seen, rather than all the double greens add up to 18, and there are seven of them.

It's great insight into the mindset of well-known, amateur golfers who make money off their YouTube exploits; they know very little about golden-age golf course architecture. I'd love to see them on more classic courses, and follow their series of epiphanies. That's my hope for 2025.
Aren't you a high school teacher?  Gobsmacked?
New for 2025: Cabarrus CC...

Peter Sayegh


Aren't you a high school teacher?  Gobsmacked?
What's your point here Brian?
Are you degrading Ronald for being a high school teacher?
Or criticizing him for introducing a new word to young minds in his classes (or interjecting it here in such an "august" group)?
As for the Good Guys and their experiences anywhere, I couldn't care less.
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Brian Finn


Aren't you a high school teacher?  Gobsmacked?
What's your point here Brian?
Are you degrading Ronald for being a high school teacher?
Or criticizing him for introducing a new word to young minds in his classes (or interjecting here in such an "august" group)?
As for the Good Guys and their experiences anywhere, I couldn't care less.
Hahaha.  Not even close.  I should not have left my comment open to so much interpretation.  My bad. 

I am suggesting that a HS teacher, who is exposed to young people all day every day, might be more in touch with this group of guys and their core demographic.  Ron is an intelligent and thoughtful person, so I am shocked that he is shocked.  As for his vocabulary, it is far better than my own, so I would never dream of criticizing it. 

I have a teen son who is just getting into golf, in a big way.  The Good Good guys are right up his alley, and I don't have a problem with that.  While they may not be knowledgeable about classic golf course architecture, or many other things in which I am interested, I don't really view them as bad influences.  Not terribly bad, anyway.   ;D


Also - if anyone else read into my brief comment that I was in any way attempting to "degrade" HS teachers, or Ron himself, please let me know (here or in private).  Such negativity never even crossed my mind.  I hold youth educators in the absolute highest regard.  My mother was a HS teacher.  My sister is a grade school teacher.  My mother in law was a middle school teacher.  The greatest influences in my daughter's (a HS senior) life have been a few of her teachers.  It feels weird that I need to type all of this out, but reading Peter's response was literally painful. I guess I should know better than to just post such open-ended comments.  Back off socials for me again!  Apologies to anyone that may have been offended. 
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BHoover


Aren't you a high school teacher?  Gobsmacked?
What's your point here Brian?
Are you degrading Ronald for being a high school teacher?
Or criticizing him for introducing a new word to young minds in his classes (or interjecting it here in such an "august" group)?
As for the Good Guys and their experiences anywhere, I couldn't care less.


Peter, in the immortal words of Sgt. Hulka, “Lighten up, Francis.”

Kalen Braley

Opposite of Ron's impression, I forced myself to watch the first 2 holes in their entirety before turning it off (I was already bored to death by the time the first group holed out on 1).  I guess this is entertainment for the younger crowd, although i did find mild interest in the ground level shots/views.

P.S. Brian, thanks for the context on the comment, I too thought it was an insult at first glance.

Peter Sayegh


Aren't you a high school teacher?  Gobsmacked?
What's your point here Brian?
Are you degrading Ronald for being a high school teacher?
Or criticizing him for introducing a new word to young minds in his classes (or interjecting it here in such an "august" group)?
As for the Good Guys and their experiences anywhere, I couldn't care less.


Peter, in the immortal words of Sgt. Hulka, “Lighten up, Francis.”
Huh?
I asked Brian to explain his post which he did-as thoughtfully as he usually does. No harm, no foul. Sorry for any consternation I caused.
Sincerely, Big Toe ;)

Craig Sweet

I've watched a couple of these Good Guy video's and they make me embarrassed to be an American.

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