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Consensus in Rankings
Paul Jones:
Following up on Tom's post Consensus vs Groupthink... I thought I would start a thread where people can voice their consensus in golf course rankings.
I will go first...
I do not like Oakmont. It is too hard, no strategy off the tee since most holes have trouble on both sides (quite a few equal distance), greens are too fast and the disjoined walked across the highway. I have played it twice and enjoyed hanging out and learning about the history in the clubhouse more than I did getting my nuts kicked on the golf course.
Michael Morandi:
Oakmont is hard but does it reward good shots? I think it does, though I only played it twice. One of those times I couldn’t get a 30 foot putt anywhere near the hole, often hitting it 8 feet by. In frustration, I asked my caddy to give it a go. He putted to 6 inches. I guess it comes down to experience and adaptability. Not sure I’d want it as a regular diet, nor would I want Shinny, Chicago or PV. But that doesn’t mean they aren’t great and enjoyable with the right perspective.
Sean_A:
--- Quote from: Paul Jones on February 18, 2025, 09:11:00 PM ---Following up on Tom's post Consensus vs Groupthink... I thought I would start a thread where people can voice their consensus in golf course rankings.
I will go first...
I do not like Oakmont. It is too hard, no strategy off the tee since most holes have trouble on both sides (quite a few equal distance), greens are too fast and the disjoined walked across the highway. I have played it twice and enjoyed hanging out and learning about the history in the clubhouse more than I did getting my nuts kicked on the golf course.
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I used to think the same about Oakland Hills, but my feelings about the course tee to green never reconciled with the outstanding greens. In any case, I think there is a place for these tough as old boots courses which still manage to squeeze out a smile or two from the non believers. It’s probably down to locality, but I would like to see the new Oakland Hills whereas Oakmont doesn’t excite me. A trip to western PA is not strong pull for me.
Ciao
Paul Jones:
I do not want this thread to be a discussion about Oakmont, but a place people can post courses they like (that most do not) or vice versa.
MCirba:
With all respect to my friend Paul Jones, any course where I can stand on the 8th tee at +1, having missed a 4-foot birdie putt on #6, is not too tough. ;)
The wind picked up and I managed to finish par, par, bogey, for an 80 that left me joyful. I had only one 3-putt and one of the best ball-striking rounds of my life but there isn't a hole out there I'd say is unfair or even drastic although a few like #3 are audacious which I loved.
I did mention a few courses on the other thread that I think are way overrated (Muirfield Village perhaps the poster child) and a few underrated so hopefully now that I've balanced out Paul's blasphemy ;D we can move on to losing access at some other courses.
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