Best avoided

[Thomas Dai]

Herein there are frequently comments about places to go.


Where are some places that are best avoided?


Many possible reasons … can be resort, pay-n-play, visitor at private club ……
… facilities
… condition
… patron actions/behavior/vibe
… location
… other


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[Andrew Harvie]

Pebble Beach after noon. It is obviously worth playing, but teeing off after noon is a recipe for the longest round of your life

[Ira Fishman]

Interesting question. When my friends who are traveling to Scotland for the first time ask me where to play, I suggest to avoid Castle Stuart and Kingsbarns (slow play, vibe, value for cost), but they always ignore me. In the US, the only two places that we have been fairly recently that I would avoid are PH4 and 8 (value for money, slow play especially on PH4). My wife would add Streamsong because of the vibe despite the quality of Blue and Red.


Ira

[Frank Sekulic]

The one place that comes to mind for me is Torrey Pines South, it is a nice course in a great setting that is not worth the price, couple that with the 5-6 hours it takes to play and it would have to rank high on any list of places to be avoided.

[Ally Mcintosh]

Pebble Beach after noon. It is obviously worth playing, but teeing off after noon is a recipe for the longest round of your life

I’m absolutely sure you are right… but leave your clubs in the car and head out for a walk 3 hours after the last tee time with only 2 hours left of sunlight and it is pretty heavenly. Or so Robin Hiseman and I found in September.

[Kalen Braley]

Pebble Beach after noon. It is obviously worth playing, but teeing off after noon is a recipe for the longest round of your life

I would give this advice for any popular muni (afternoon weekend rounds) in any populated area around the country.  By far and away my slowest rounds were always due to disregarding this rule...

P.S.  I haven't run into any of the reasons Thomas listed in his original OP, although I can certainly think of a few based on value...  aka what you pay vs what you get.

[Pierre_C]

Bethpage Black after 1:00 pm, any day of week. It will be a long round and walk in the dark.

Any municipal course in NYC on weekends in the summer. Expect at least 5 1/2 hour round, avoiding random golf balls, and a lot of waiting. However, you meet a lot of interesting people.

[PThomas]

Glen Club near O'hare airport....peak rate last year with cart was $250!


Go play Ravisloe for less than half the price

[Dan_Callahan]

Caledonia and True Blue in mid-March. The spring break crowd and buckets of beer make for 6-hour rounds.

[Mark Pearce]

The International, under the flight path of planes landing at Schipol, just by the motorway.  Lovely cart paths, though.

[Simon Barrington]

The Pointe at Lookout Mountain AZ - To quote my old boss, the late Sandy Jones (CEO PGA) "A waste of a good desert"

Marbella Golf & Country Club, Marbella, Spain - Brutally tight RTJ course on overly steep land. Another PGA colleague, the late Les Massey, was asked who had helped in the design (this was during the Gulf War for context) he suggested the design associate was "Saddam Hussein, as it's just torture"

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