Roads, walls, or any construction in play !

[Nicolas Joakimides]

 hello,




I am really interested in golf holes with barns , wall ,roads, or any other construction that are in play !
Do you know any other than the one I know : St Andrews, Prestwick, North Berwick, Renaissance (Scotland) Anahita (Mauritius) and Teelal, (Morocco).


I would love pictures as well !
Many thanks


https://www.off-the-beaten-track-golf-design.com/

[Alex_Hunter]

Dunbar Golf Club in Dunbar, Scotland has numerous walls and a few buildings in play on several holes.
The rock wall you walk through on the 4th hole is most certainly in play, then there is a dividing wall all the way down the right side for most of the rest of the front nine. There is a small shed that comes into play on the 8th and again on the back nine. The rock wall also comes back into play on the 18th. I uploaded a few photos of the course here: https://imgur.com/gallery/dunbar-golf-club-7jmEAsL

5th

[Tony_Muldoon]

It's not uncommon in the UK to play accross a road, even famous courses like St Georges Hill retain them - expensive cars there.


The one that surprised me was on Crail's Craighead.  There's a road crossing which is elevated about 8'(guesstimate) and the ground on the approach rises abruptly; meaning its a vertical barrier or obstable that must be carried.  From memory the other side slopes away. Never seen that before.

[Tom_Doak]

It’s not as small a club as you think.  Five of the top ten courses in the world hit over a public road:


St Andrews 1 & 18
Cypress Point 1
Pebble Beach 16
National 8 & 11
Shinnecock 12 & 13


(Plus the driveway at Pine Valley)


Mid Ocean leads the way among top courses with four road crossings.


Buildings are more rare but there are still a lot of them.

[Niall C]

Tony


From memory it's a scheduled monument so couldn't be removed.


Niall

[Pierre_C]

Fortrose & Rosemarkie G.C., in Scotland, 5th hole. Short par 3 (133 yds, 122 yds, & 107 yds) requires a tee shot over an active road (images below). This is one of my favorite courses in Scotland.






Royal Dornoch 1st hole. Tee shot over Golf Rd. (image below)




Carmel Valley Ranch
1st & 5th holes, road in front of tee boxes.

[Mark Pearce]

Tony


From memory it's a scheduled monument so couldn't be removed.


Niall

And it is played over on the 11th, 14th and 15th.  The decision as to whether to lay up short or try to carry it needs to be made on both 11 and 15 and in both cases laying up leave a blind mid-iron approach, whilst carrying it leaves a short approach with a wedge.  There's also a wall along and close to the left of the 11th green. 


During BUDA at least one of my opponents (can't remember who, also had a ball lying up against the wall running down and close to the left of the 13th green.  The wall at the back (and to the left) of 10 green can also often be in play.  As can the wall behind the 1st green, and on the left of the 6th fairway.


I've never seen the wall behind 17 in play but imagine it could be.


The old lifeboat house to the left of the green on the 1st on Balcomie can also be in play and the perimeter wall on the right of 7, 8 and 9.

[Tim Martin]

The stone wall that runs the length of the 12th hole on the right side at Keney Park GC does not afford the golfer relief as it defines the course boundary with the opposite side being OB. It’s a great golf metaphor as the other side contains a cemetery and if you hit it there “you are dead.” Additionally the clubhouse is behind the ninth green and if your ball is close enough it requires a carom shot off the brick exterior to get back on the green.

[Kyle Harris]

Galen Hall’s 12th has a barn adjacent to the green.

[Marty Bonnar]

I can think of at least two Courses where a Ha-ha comes into play: Dalmahoy, Close House. There’s probably dozens more.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ha-ha

[Thomas Dai]

Obstacle golf. Walls, fences, hedges, roads, buildings etc. Splendid.
Not so good/acceptable given modern era balls and clubs but using retro clubs and/or a rolled-back ball, well that would be yippee time!
Just need some grazing livestock and it would be near perfect!!!

Atb

[Tommy Williamsen]

Six at Baltimore CC is known as the barn hole. It is a dogleg left par five.
The first hole at Cypress requires a drive over 17 mile drive.
17 at Westward Ho! demands a thrid shot over a road.

[Phil Burr]

Fenwick Golf Course, a nine-holer in Old Saybrook CT, has a church in the right rough on the par 4 first hole.  Not ruins or abandoned.  Last time I was there, it was the primary place of worship for the citizens of the village and conducted a full calendar of church activities.

[Mark Pearce]

I can think of at least two Courses where a Ha-ha comes into play: Dalmahoy, Close House. There’s probably dozens more.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ha-ha

There's a Ha-Ha at one of the Matfen Hall courses.


18 at Ganton plays over a road.  There's a (quite busy) road to be carried at Berkhamsted.  The railway is in play on 18 (? - I played in a shotgun start so am slightly confused as to numbering) at Royal Adelaide.  There's a road (of sorts) in play on the 8th at Elie.

[Phil Burr]

The 6th hole at the Royal Colombo Golf Club in Sri Lanka has an active commuter rail line passing between the fairway & green.  In fact, they’re planning to make it double wide.

[Simon Barrington]

Nicolas

In terms of Roads this extensive thread may help:
https://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,40740.0.html

Over to the group for Walls & Structures...

[Matt Schoolfield]

Lake Chabot GC delights and/or terrifies people coming to the course for the first time, as you need to enter on this road:

[Sean_A]

I am sure there is a wall under turf on St Enodoc’s 14th.

Kilspindie has a few holes with walls.

Anstruther has a few holes with buildings in play.

Ciao

[Simon Barrington]

Lake Chabot GC delights and/or terrifies people coming to the course for the first time, as you need to enter on this road:

Misread this and thought it was Lake ChatBot! 

[Thomas Dai]

[quote author=Sean_A link=topic=73495.msg1763407#msg1763407 date=1736196283]
I am sure there is a wall under turf on St Enodoc 14th.


Rock wall at right side and rear with infill.
If you recall the 6th tee at Machynlleth it’s not dissimilar. Rock wall at front and right side with infill behind (fair chance mostly rock and rubble with layer of soil and turf on top). The upper level 1st tee at Kington is similar too.
Easy and strength of construction I image not too different in many ways to what modern era garden feature builders are constructing.
Atb

[Mike_Clayton]

The 18th century fort left of Royal Jersey's 17th fairway is very cool as are the temples at Delhi Golf Club

[Adam Lawrence]

I was going to mention Royal Jersey too, though in my mind the fort (which dates from the Napoleonic wars) is a far bigger issue off the first tee. The opening drive requires you to hit between the fort and the beach. To make it even scarier, the beach is several feet below the level of the fairway, because of a sea wall constructed by the occupying Germans during WW2 to deter any invasion attempt. It's a terrifying shot for the first of the day.

[Thomas Dai]

I was going to mention Royal Jersey too, though in my mind the fort (which dates from the Napoleonic wars) is a far bigger issue off the first tee. The opening drive requires you to hit between the fort and the beach. To make it even scarier, the beach is several feet below the level of the fairway, because of a sea wall constructed by the occupying Germans during WW2 to deter any invasion attempt. It's a terrifying shot for the first of the day.

Nice example Royal Jersey. I go along with Adams suggestion that it’s more relevant on the first hole.
On the opposite side of the first fairway to the Napoleonic Fort immediately adjacent to the sea defence wall are additionally a couple of WW2 German concrete gun emplacements. One is not far past the Napoleonic Fort making the tee shot even more terrifying especially in a left to right wind. Terrific hole.


Royal Guernsey also has fortification towers on the course. Felixstowe Ferry too. I’m sure there are many others. I believe Royal Malta plays in, around and over some old military fortifications. The British armed forces like their golf and many a base had a golf course of some kind on site. I recall playing shots over the obstacle training features at a then army course in Malaysia. Aren’t there some holes next to the DMZ between South and North Korea?


Atb

[Adam Lawrence]

I was going to mention Royal Jersey too, though in my mind the fort (which dates from the Napoleonic wars) is a far bigger issue off the first tee. The opening drive requires you to hit between the fort and the beach. To make it even scarier, the beach is several feet below the level of the fairway, because of a sea wall constructed by the occupying Germans during WW2 to deter any invasion attempt. It's a terrifying shot for the first of the day.

Nice example Royal Jersey. I go along with Adams suggestion that it’s more relevant on the first hole.
On the opposite side of the first fairway to the Napoleonic Fort immediately adjacent to the sea defence wall are additionally a couple of WW2 German concrete gun emplacements. One is not far past the Napoleonic Fort making the tee shot even more terrifying especially in a left to right wind. Terrific hole.

Royal Guernsey also has fortification towers on the course. Felixstowe Ferry too. I’m sure there are many others. I believe Royal Malta plays in, around and over some old military fortifications. The British armed forces like their golf and many a base had a golf course of some kind on site. I recall playing shots over the obstacle training features at a then army course in Malaysia. Aren’t there some holes next to the DMZ between South and North Korea?

Atb

Using Google Earth I just measured the gap between Fort Henry and the seawall... just a hair under 45 yards.

[Niall C]

Obstacle golf. Walls, fences, hedges, roads, buildings etc. Splendid.
Not so good/acceptable given modern era balls and clubs but using retro clubs and/or a rolled-back ball, well that would be yippee time!
Just need some grazing livestock and it would be near perfect!!!

Atb

David


I think what you really need is a time machine to take you back to the 1800's.


Niall