Roads, walls, or any construction in play !

[Niall C]

Moray Old has airplane landing lights on a couple of holes and then there are numerous courses with overhead powerlines in play.


Niall

[MCirba]

The 12th at Galen Hall is a par five where a large barn comes into play just off the green.   A strong left to right cant of the land means wayward second (or third) shots can be behind the barn, leaving an interesting or impossible approach.   


This photo from the Bausch Collection.   Joe once bet us he could make par by caroming a shot off the barn and amazingly he pulled it off!

[Nicolas Joakimides]

Thanks for all these informations and especially the pictures !

[Tony_Muldoon]

I am sure there is a wall under turf on St Enodoc’s 14th.

Kilspindie has a few holes with walls.

Anstruther has a few holes with buildings in play.

Ciao

Kilspindies 17th is great. On the direct line much of the wall is half buried, so in some places you can run a ball over, with the green right behind; others you are snookered.

Also theres a wall behind the green on Lahinch's famous blind Klondyke.  The landing area short of the green is downhill (IIRC) and the wind is often at your back.  Despite a large green the section of wall immediately behind it is also 'buried' and an overenthusiastic approach can run up this bit and finish OOB on the road. The mounding is not present either side of the green.

[Simon Barrington]

A couple of Walls:

   Loch Lomond (2nd Hole)

   Several at Marion GC, Massachusetts


Buildings:

Several courses have concrete Gun Enplacements/Pill Boxes and the like:

   Dunstanburgh Castle

   Omaha Beach (if I recall) possibly also Belle Dune?

   Burnham & Berrow (Channel)

and many more...on the Coasts of both UK & France, and possibly Northern Europe as well...


There was once a course at Camber Castle (near Rye) designed by James Braid that had 5x greens in very close proximity to a Castle built by Henry VIII. It closed not long after WWII.

See here for photos...a fascinating routing:
https://www.golfsmissinglinks.co.uk/index.php/england/south-east/sussex/836-sus-camber-castle-golf-club-winchelsea?highlight=WyJjYW1iZXIiLCJjYXN0bGUiLCJjYW1iZXIgY2FzdGxlIl0=


Also and lastly, the course at Circolo Golf Venezia is built partially amongst the ramparts of a former Naval dockyard

[mike_beene]

Thinking of Hawaii, Wailea Gold has some old stone walls in play.
Also, there is a course outside of DC with an old shed in play. Seems like an old moonshine house, and the name refers to it, but I can’t think of it.

[Sean_A]

There is a WWII bunker in play at Burnham’ 6th. A few more are OoB that were uncovered recently. There is also one at Deal in play.

The road on Seacroft’s 8th is used extremely well.

Ciao

[Robin_Hiseman]

The new Old Petty course at Cabot Highlands has Castle Stuart very much in the line of play on the 3rd hole. I hope they have strong glass in the windows.

[Marty Bonnar]

I almost forgot the Roman(ish!) temple at Haddington…

 

[James Reader]

The new Old Petty course at Cabot Highlands has Castle Stuart very much in the line of play on the 3rd hole. I hope they have strong glass in the windows.

I think I read that there’ll be a building in play very close to one of the greens as well.

[Tom_Doak]

The new Old Petty course at Cabot Highlands has Castle Stuart very much in the line of play on the 3rd hole. I hope they have strong glass in the windows.

I think I read that there’ll be a building in play very close to one of the greens as well.

Yes, but the latter is an old farm building -- a "bothy" in local parlance.  They might turn it into a halfway house of sorts [even though it's after the 5th hole], but that would require some serious reconstruction / stabilizing.


Personally, I've not thought that the castle will be in play as much as other visitors have remarked on it . . . I would have thought people would steer clear out of respect!  But calling the hole a long par-3 instead of a short 4 [as we originally suggested] probably does make more people take a line closer to the corner.


Luckily, there is no one in the castle much these days.

[JohnVDB]

The Rochford Hundred course right next to the Southend airport had bunkers and bomb craters when I played it in the 60s.  I assume they are still there.


The road pictured in a previous post at Dornoch can also come into play on the 18th if you hit it over the green.


Also, there is a road that is “paved” with plastic matting that crosses the 12th fairway and is right in the drive zone for short to medium hitters.


The Struie has a road which crosses 3, 4, 16 and 17.  Also one that parallels 15 and has rough on both sides and then runs between 5 & 7.


Golspie has a road crossing the 8th fairway just short of the green


Tain has one which crosses 1 and 18


There is an old barn on one hole on Hamilton Farms in NJ.

[Nate Oxman]

The 12th at Galen Hall is a par five where a large barn comes into play just off the green.   A strong left to right cant of the land means wayward second (or third) shots can be behind the barn, leaving an interesting or impossible approach.   


This photo from the Bausch Collection.   Joe once bet us he could make par by caroming a shot off the barn and amazingly he pulled it off!

Mike, please tell me Joe used his putter for the bank shot.

[Nate Oxman]

The 9th hole at Westchester CC's South Course has a barn in the right rough. It's definitely in play if hit your tee shot right.

[Thomas Dai]

If it’s roads, walls, fences, ditches, beaches, sea defences, houses, caravans, railway tracks you want then head to Borth & Ynyslas in Wales and you’ll get them all - see - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ogVKIVlSLsc&pp=ygUKQm9ydGggZ29sZg%3D%3D
You’ll also get interesting, challenging links golf in a raw, rural and rustic landscape as well.
Atb

[Brett Hochstein]

6 at Orinda plays over Miner Road and at a diagonal, making for one of the best and most strategic tee shots on the course. You really need to cut that corner a bit to be able to get over the ridge on the second shot to have a view of the green for the 3rd. Great, simple hole.


Sean mentioned Anstruther's buildings, but the wall attached to one at the the 4th is brilliant IMO. If you pull a shot left or bail out away from the right side cliffs and into the 3rd fairway on the left, you have to deal with that carrying that wall and the drop-off into the sea behind.  The angle is only made worse the longer your tee shot.


Just up the rail line from Prestwick, the 4th at Irvine Bogside is a short par 4 with a wall hard against the green, but this time on the left (as opposed to 1 at Prestwick).  It's not as strategic a hole as that, but it's still pretty cool with how tight the wall/OB/railway is.


Less a "wall" as we know it, but the 13th at Minchinhampton Old plays diagonally (and brilliantly) over an historic "bulwark," which is a sort of large, ancient, earthen fortification wall. 

[Mark Pearce]

Extraordinary that none of us had remembered the wall on the inside of the dogleg on the 6th at Muirfield.  Very definitely in play.

[Mark Pearce]

There's a wall that has to be carried on the downhill par 3 3rd at Kinghorn.  The green is only just over it, so very much in play.

[Sean_A]

6 at Orinda plays over Miner Road and at a diagonal, making for one of the best and most strategic tee shots on the course. You really need to cut that corner a bit to be able to get over the ridge on the second shot to have a view of the green for the 3rd. Great, simple hole.


Sean mentioned Anstruther's buildings, but the wall attached to one at the the 4th is brilliant IMO. If you pull a shot left or bail out away from the right side cliffs and into the 3rd fairway on the left, you have to deal with that carrying that wall and the drop-off into the sea behind.  The angle is only made worse the longer your tee shot.


Just up the rail line from Prestwick, the 4th at Irvine Bogside is a short par 4 with a wall hard against the green, but this time on the left (as opposed to 1 at Prestwick).  It's not as strategic a hole as that, but it's still pretty cool with how tight the wall/OB/railway is.


Less a "wall" as we know it, but the 13th at Minchinhampton Old plays diagonally (and brilliantly) over an historic "bulwark," which is a sort of large, ancient, earthen fortification wall.

In the same vein as 13 Minch Old, 13 at Cleeve Hill uses the old hill fort ditch and bulwark brilliantly. Still one of the most incredible green sites I have seen.

Ciao

[David Kelly]

Ardglass Golf Club in NI has an old house/building hard by the #7 green that is definitely in play.  There is also a building in the middle of the 16th fairway.


https://www.ardglassgolfclub.com/golf-course/

[Simon Barrington]

Extraordinary that none of us had remembered the wall on the inside of the dogleg on the 6th at Muirfield.  Very definitely in play.

The boundary wall on the 9th also, although mowing regimes have deterred the LH route (for the second, that brings the wall even more into play) over the years.

[Greg Hohman]

There was once a course at Camber Castle (near Rye) designed by James Braid that had 5x greens in very close proximity to a Castle built by Henry VIII. It closed not long after WWII.

See here for photos...a fascinating routing:
https://www.golfsmissinglinks.co.uk/index.php/england/south-east/sussex/836-sus-camber-castle-golf-club-winchelsea?highlight=WyJjYW1iZXIiLCJjYXN0bGUiLCJjYW1iZXIgY2FzdGxlIl0=

OT: Simon, in one of the photos of “Personalities” is the painter Oswald Moser?

[Tim_Weiman]

Six at Baltimore CC is known as the barn hole. It is a dogleg left par five.
The first hole at Cypress requires a drive over 17 mile drive.
17 at Westward Ho! demands a thrid shot over a road.

Tommy,


Baltimore CC was the first course that came to mind for me. I really like that hole.


Tim

[Simon Barrington]

There was once a course at Camber Castle (near Rye) designed by James Braid that had 5x greens in very close proximity to a Castle built by Henry VIII. It closed not long after WWII.

See here for photos...a fascinating routing:
https://www.golfsmissinglinks.co.uk/index.php/england/south-east/sussex/836-sus-camber-castle-golf-club-winchelsea?highlight=WyJjYW1iZXIiLCJjYXN0bGUiLCJjYW1iZXIgY2FzdGxlIl0=

OT: Simon, in one of the photos of “Personalities” is the painter Oswald Moser?

Not to be confused with Oswald Mosley (a far less creative and altogether darker character)


I wasn't aware of Moser, until now, the only "Moser" I knew by name was the talented Angela "of this parish" ;-)

[Pete_Pittock]

Three that I have played that have structures but have not been mentioned. Encountered too many walls and roads to mention


Langdon Farms (OR) has a barn on the 8th hole.  Fossil Trace (CO) has a chimney in the 1st fairway. Whiskey Run (MD?) has a stone farmhouse in the middle of 18.