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Chris Hughes

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Re: Golf in Scotland is sinking fast
« Reply #450 on: December 27, 2024, 12:18:00 AM »
Dornoch would not represent the general situation and problems providing and sustaining economical golf in the United Kingdom.


The new labour government have just put multiple daggers into the bodies of many small businesses by increasing wages, insurance contributions, business rates and employment laws. Golf Clubs will suffer and many more will close.




Bring on the robots! 😉




...and the "AI" pin-setting algorithms!!   ;D
"Is it the Chicken Salad or the Golf Course that attracts and retains members?"

Ken Moum

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Re: Golf in Scotland is sinking fast
« Reply #451 on: December 30, 2024, 10:08:43 PM »
I must agree with Mark, but I would also echo Adrian's point that Dornoch is in no sense representative of anything.

Apart from anything else, I am pretty certain it is the golf club that has the highest proportion of its revenue from non-members anywhere in the world.


I'm pretty sure ANGC tops them by several orders of magnitude,  but that's clearly a special case.
Over time, the guy in the ideal position derives an advantage, and delivering him further  advantage is not worth making the rest of the players suffer at the expense of fun, variety, and ultimately cost -- Jeff Warne, 12-08-2010

Joe_Tucholski

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Re: Golf in Scotland is sinking fast
« Reply #452 on: January 01, 2025, 02:10:42 AM »
I'm very lucky I pulled the trigger on joining a local club in St. Andrews and got on the Links Trust Annual Ticket waitlist when I did. After getting in the local club I joined and signing up for the Links Trust Ticket it took me 7 years to get mine.  I'm hearing that waitlist is closer to 15 years long now.  I have no idea if that is true, just rumors I've heard.


Jeff I assume much longer than 15 years for folks getting on the list now IF things continue as they are.  I've been on the waitlist for 3 years and each year the number of people offered a ticket has decreased.  The last e-mail I received in June said they'd allocate 75 a year and I was 1106.  At current pace I'll be able to purchase after 18 years of waiting.  At those timelines I figure a number of people will be unavailable to purchase their ticket when their name comes up.


Local club membership also seems to be quite the wait.  New Club lists "considerable waiting lists are in place."


Another thing I noticed today is the visitor 3 and 7 day unlimited ticket options seem to be gone.  They were on the pricing list yesterday and maybe pending a 2025 price update, but I doubt it as there is now a 54 hole package with a food and beverage credit.