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Ranking my favorite holes at Pine Valley from 1-18
Steven Wade:
I know this has nothing to do with the holes, but I had a 100th anniversary polo that I recently had made into a head cover because I like this logo so much. Hopefully being a logo nerd is allowed here.
mike_malone:
Archie,
Too tough for me to do so I will try three groups from most loved to liked a lot. They are listed by first to play.
2 the elevation and bunker set plus a great green
4 Love up and over and angled tee shot to an open green that allows a running shot to a massive green.
6 The tremendous bunker and angled tee shot is awesome and the smaller green with slope.
8 Two tiny greens!!
13. Love these par fours that have up and over tee shots.
16 Another great tee shot to an awesome green.
Tier two
3 Easier to hit the green then it seems. Nice angle to the green.
5 Pretty straightforward driver or three wood to a par three!
9 Another two green option that keeps my interest
11. Like the center line bunker. Like hole better than most.
12. Classic “sand cape”.
15. Relentless par 5 with challenging green at the end.
17 Very attractive tight uphill approach
Tier three
1 straightforward
7 prefer angles versus the right in front hell’s half acre. Bunker surrounding the green not my favorite either
10. Just hit the wedge in the center of the green.
14 Just hit the iron in the middle of the green.
18. Tough on a 15 plus 75 year old to do more than layup.
archie_struthers:
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Boom 💥. Mayday always love your input ! Think 🤔 you and TEP are kindred spirits but you have more free cash 💰 haha
Love uphill tee shots. Just love them . Most don’t appreciate #11 as much as us but it really grows on you. I caddied for Tom Watson once and he asked if he could hit driver in the throat. When he hit it thought 💭 it was too deep and the trees on the left would leave him locked up. Somehow God was looking out for me and it kicked straight off a right to left slope. He also loved to hit driver on #8 as did Jay Sigel. Me too so three great players agree ;D ;D ;D
Michael Felton:
I played three rounds there 26 years ago and remember it like it was yesterday. I started to try to rank the holes and did so at least at first by figuring I'd pick the holes that were in the better half of them. Then I went through the holes in my head and pretty much all of them I thought, well yeah that has to be in the top half, so I gave up. So, putting them in hole order when I really can't differentiate them:
8 based on the left green - it's such a short hole that you look at the card and think great opportunity - then you stand in the fairway with your ball below your feet aiming at a green that's about 4 yards wide and your heart rate spikes
13 the second shot here is just so good. All that acreage out to the right and the end of the world left. I just can't get myself to hit it at the green
1 stand on the tee and it feels like you've got some room, but then you get a bit safe with it and you've got 6 iron into a green that gets more and more punishing the further up it you go. Wouldn't be surprised if this green is responsible for the most 3 putts when the flag is at the back of it.
5 here only God can make a 3 - only hole I didn't make par on in my three rounds. (I got one on 13 holing a 25 foot putt that broke 10 feet).
7 probably the most famous hole here I would think - maybe along with 10 - both due to bunkers. I made birdie here my first time, which definitely helps
10 shortish par 3 with the end of your round sitting right there in front of your face. Don't miss
2 this green is crazy and I don't think I've ever seen one like it anywhere else. It's a relatively short hole - iron and wedge from where I played it, but that second shot is tough and if you leave it above the hole, you're in for a treat
3 I love Ran's comment on this one - the clover leaf shaped green is stunning and the ball moves so much once it's on the ground. It's fairly playable though and I got to see the Redan style movement of the ball more here than I ever have on Redans and I played this hole 3 times and Redans dozens of times.
6 Temptation rears its ugly head. How do you keep it left enough? I can't do it. Cost me a 7 my first go because I hit it a bit too far right and spent 3 shots getting it back in play.
17 awesome short par 4. Slight birdie opportunity if you hit good shots
4 I really enjoyed the width here and watching a ball run down the hill onto the green is great
14 This is my least favorite par 3 of the bunch, but it's still a great hole with so much trouble around.
15 My dad likes to say that he reduced this hole to three 5 woods and a 7 iron (and then holed a 40 foot putt for a par after the caddie told him to hit his putt like the hole was 6 feet away and at right angles to the hole). My only criticism of this hole is it's a little bit one dimensional. Hit it far and straight, rinse, repeat. Green area is great though.
16 I really like the way on this one you can take on the carry and then you hit parallel to the water, or you play it safe and now the water is behind the flag. Very challenging approach shot - nowhere near as hard as 13, but similar concept.
18 Tough finishing hole with what I remember as being a little narrow for the drive (relatively speaking), but maybe that's because I just hit it not where I meant to. The bunkers to the right of the green have some spots where you REALLY don't want to go. 4, 14, 15, 16 and 18 are pretty similar level to my mind
9 9, 12 and 11 are three holes that I feel like I've played similar to them elsewhere. I think each of them would be a stand out hole on 99% of the courses around the world, but they don't quite stand out here. 9 and 11 are both hit it in the fairway and hit it on the green and get out of there.
12 I don't love this hole quite as much as most of the others - it's still very well put together and a really good hole. It doesn't suit my eye that much though and I'm probably being overly harsh as a result
11 Basically what I said about 9 - this is the one hole that I would consider less memorable than the others - I don't really remember it as well.
Jim Hoak:
Not to distract from the rankings, but I think that #13 is the single best golf hole in the whole world!
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