Ben,
Thanks for putting the effort into writing all of that! I can't say that I read it all very carefully but what I did read was very thoughtful and there's a lot that I agree with. I don't think I have as intimate an understanding of these courses as you do having only been around each twice, but I've written
about each on my website and have put a good deal of thought into them.
Despite my limited experience with the courses, I'm with you and the locals. The basic reason why is that Cabot Links has the best green complex shaping I've seen on a new course. Better than any of the Bandon Courses. Better than Sand Valley, Mammoth Dunes, or anything I've seen by Pete Dye. And that's because much of the interest is generated through subtle features. It exemplifies the do-more-by-doing-less principle, which I think is an important one.
Like all new courses, there's a lot of short grass around the greens. But I haven't seen one that it so good at letting short grass do what it can do without helping it. By that I mean this: when the grass is short, the ball will roll. When the ball rolls, it doesn't need to roll very far to make for tricky shots. This is the core lesson of Pinehurst no. 2 and that course is so great not because it has severe roll-offs (it has a few),
but because most of them aren't. Yet so many new courses have many steep, long roll-offs next to the greens, from where many players will take an X. This is completely unnecessary to generate interest. It mostly generates frustration. On Cabot Links, the short grass areas are often gently sloped and in some cases are pretty flat. And that's enough. More is less.
Having said that, I asked the starter before my first round here which course people preferred. And to my surprise, he said that it was about 50-50. I thought that with the ratings and the greater visual drama of Cabot Cliffs, it would have been more like 80-20 Cliffs.
I haven't done one of these hole-by-hole matchups in my head, so while I expect Cabot Links to win, Cliffs has the advantage of having more spectacular individual holes. Links is more of a the-whole-is-more-than-the-sum-of-its-parts kind of course.
1: Links' first hole exemplifies everything I said above. It's just the most perfect, comfortable-looking green. It looks like a green on a fine British links course. But the first two shots are also great; it's reachable if you can hug/carry the bunker on left and the fairway bunkers in the approach landing area pinch the fairway in the perfect spot for those who haven't hit such a good drive but want to go for it anyway.
I also like the first hole on Cliffs, which was very tough into the wind. I like the carry bunker in the middle of the fairway well short of the green, but I think each element is just a bit less interesting than Links 1.
Links 1 up.
2: Everyone will pick Cliffs here and so will I because it's such a beautiful hole and has so many options. Although I wonder if it makes sense to play for the right side of the fairway given the better view from the left. I may not have played this hole enough to understand it.
The green on Links 2 is another beauty, although I think I'm more impressed by the soft shaping short of the green than the Biarritz swale.
All square.
3: This is such a great driving hole on Links, with the mound probably being one of the best centerline features that I've seen. I didn't think the approach was as interesting because the green is pretty large.
I think the best way to play the 3rd on Cliffs is to go left of the fairway bunker because you don't have to cross the dip on the right side of the green on the approach, but the best thing might just be to get as close as you can to the green, which invites greater trouble.
I think my personal preference is for Links but reviewing them again, I can't say it's a better hole overall. So I'll call it a draw.
All square.
4: This is an easy one for me. I don't care for either of the greens on Cliffs. The right green is just too narrow and I saw more than one player play ping pong in the bunkers.
Links is a classic tough long par 4, with staggered fairway bunkers and diagonal bunkers leading into the green. But there's plenty of room up the left side on the approach, giving those who are further back in the fairway a chance.
Links 1 up.
5: I love the par 3 5th on Links, which again exemplifies what's so good about this course, with its green that falls softly from front-left to back-right.
But I just can't say that it's a better hole than Cliffs' 5th, which must be one of the world's greatest driving holes. The thing that makes this hole so great, apart from the unique and spectacular setting, is that the drive is interesting for every skill level of player. Everyone can think about making some carry and it would be to everyone's advantage if they could pull it off.
All square.
6: I'd say the opposite for this one. Cliffs' 6th is such a great setting. I don't think I've ever seen a hole that blends into sand dunes better.
But you just can't beat Links 6, which is one of the coolest settings anywhere. St. Enodoc and Cruden Bay don't have anything on the little fishing boat harbor behind this green. And the green is another subtle work of art, sloping so gently to the left. And it's one of the best pond driving holes that I've seen.
Links 1 up.
7: This one is a tougher call because I think Cliffs 7 is one of the best driving holes on the property. But I'm not as impressed by the approach.
Links' 7th is one of the best-looking greens of all. And the principle of the hole, that the deeper you go into the green, the steeper the greater the danger (steeper fall-off on the right), is one that I always love. Because I like a greater percentage of this hole,
Links 2 up
8: This is another easy call. Cliffs is a pretty good driving hole but the land is fairly tame and I wasn't impressed by the rest of the hole.
I think Links 8 is one of the best par 5s that I've seen. It's important to hug the left side if you want to go for the green because it shortens the hole, and that invites obvious danger. But if laying up, it's critical to be up the left side. If the pin is anywhere on the left, it's extremely awkward to approach from wide right because of the brilliant contouring, which creates a deep but narrow ridge on the left. Maybe it wouldn't be quite as interesting if the pin were somewhere else on this large double green, but it was on the left both times I played it and I learned the hard way how much harder an approach from the right was.
Links 3 up
9: The little downhill par 3 on Cliffs is beautiful, but it feels shoehorned into the routing and the green was both large and uninteresting.
This isn't one of my favorite holes on Links either, but there's clearly something to think about on the drive with all the bunkers. I didn't remember the green, but looking at the picture on my website, clearly it's another good one.
Links 4 up.
10: I think Cliffs 10 is one of the best-looking holes anywhere. It's also an awesome approach over the chasm if you hit good enough of a drive to go for it.
Links 10 is also a very good looking hole but I don't think I was as impressed as Andrew and Ben seem to have been. Although it's a tough green to approach if you miss the fairway left, it seemed fine from everywhere else. But this hole played downwind both times and was quite easy, so maybe I missed something that playing in different conditions would reveal.
Links 3 up.
11: This is a pretty easy call because Links 11 is just such an incredible hole. I can't match what Ben said but I'll note one additional thing--if you lay up to the left fairway, you want to be on the right side because if you're too far back and left, you'll have a blind approach. I'd also note that the drive is quite tough, with everything sneaking off to the right.
But Cliffs 11 is good too. It was downwind which made it play a lot narrower than it looked because even a slight pull would run into the bunker on the left. The green is also very nice.
Links 4 up.
12: This is neither course's strongest hole but Cliffs' has the vice of being almost unplayable. There isn't anyway to run the ball on the green. I think you just have to hit a perfect iron shot that lands into the upslope at the front of the green in just the right spot to kill the momentum. This is one of those holes where less short grass around the green would be better because everyone who tries to hit the green gets killed by the long runoff to the left.
Links 12 is probably the tamest hole so far as far as features, but it was into the teeth of the wind, so I appreciated that. It's a long par 4, so the lack of features makes sense if the hole is going to play into the wind a lot.
Links 5 up.
13: This is a tough call again because it isn't either course's best. I like the blind drive on Links, but the rest of the hold reminds me more of other new courses with a very wide fairway and big, bold green. It's not bad, but it doesn't exemplify what I think is so unique and great about this course.
Cliffs 13 is a nice break after 12. It's a nice wide-open fairway to a blind, but deep and friendly green. Because I think it's stylistically a better fit with the rest of the course,
Links 4 up.
14: I played in July when the courses were very firm. Cliffs 14, with its table top green, was straight downwind and like 12, it was impossible to hit the green without hitting the upslope in front of the green in just the right spot. I saw one ball hit the green and bounce into the woods, never to be found.
I think these super-short par 3s are often gimmicky, relying too much on bunkers or goofy green contours. But I thought Links 14 was just right. It's pretty nasty if you miss the green right, but I think the green is large enough that it's reasonable. I don't know, maybe because I hit two good wedge shots and hit the green twice I don't see how unreasonable the hole can be.
Links 5 up. And that'd be the match, Links 5&4.
15: This is another tough call, but because both holes are so great. I think this is Links' best hole. It's made by the green, which is narrow at the front and angled at the left side of the fairway, making for an easier approach if you hug the beach grass on the left. But it's also important to note that the green also widens a bit at its back and there's short grass over the right bunker, so there may be a bit more room for inaccuracy if you take enough club.
Everyone's seen pictures of Cliffs 15. Obviously, you want to carry the bunker if you can. But I'm not sure the risk of going left of the bunker justifies the reward. And I don't think there's much of an advantage in the angle. With the firm ground, it's always a bit hit-and-hope when going for the green.
Links 6 up.
16: Links 16 is an excellent long par 4 which, like no. 4, requires you either to lay back or hit a very straight drive between staggered bunkers. The approach is a beauty.
But it just can't compete with Cliffs 16, which is certainly the most spectacular par 3 I've ever played. I haven't played many holes which literally got my heart racing, but this one did. And there's some decision making about which line to pick if playing safe.
Links 5 up.
17: I feel the same way about Cliffs 17 as Cliffs 16. Is there a more spectacular driving hole in the world? That you have to go uphill and over this cliff? Unbelievable. They should probably clear out some of the roses left of the fairway but otherwise, I think the hole works. You can get on the green if you take the bold line but if you play out to the left, it's a very tricky pitch. And I confirmed that the bump-and-run around the front bunker works.
Links 17 is a very English-feeling uphill par 3 with tight bunkering around the green, one of my favorite types of holes. And this and the other par 3s nos. 5 and 7 exemplify the relaxed, subtle greatness of this course. But this hole can't compete with Cliffs 17.
Links 4 up.
18: Now that I think about it, 15 can't be the best hole on Links because 18 must be. This is surely one of the world's greatest long par 4s. I love the blind drive and the approach is one of the coolest shots anywhere, where a pull means that you'll have to chip from below the bar window with everyone watching. And on a course with sublime contouring on and around the greens, this one might be the best yet.
Cliffs 18 is obviously a great hole too, but not this great to me. It was very tough to carry the chasm short of the green into the wind but that's probably more of a strength than a weakness. I really struggled with it both times and maybe that makes me less disposed toward it than I'd otherwise be.
Links 5 up.
I can see why Cliffs is the higher-rated course--it's visually spectacular and has several holes that stand out even among the world's best. But it just can't match Links around the greens.
Part of this I think is because of the site. Like the debate I'm having in the thread about the top 100 public courses on Southern Pines vs. Mid Pines and Pine Needles, Cliffs' land is much hillier and is not conducive to building subtle greens. Because I value this highly in a course, it puts Cliffs behind Links for me.
I also think that Cliffs and other new courses might benefit from having a bit less short grass around the greens. I appreciate that short grass can create short game interest, but it overly penalizes shots that aren't that bad when you have it on long and steep slopes. I really don't think that shots up a steep short grass hill are all that interesting; you're just praying that it comes off right so that you don't have to hit the shot again or hit that same shot from the other side of the green. The pros struggle with these shots too as we saw at Pinehurst this past summer. Again, Cabot Cliffs is not nearly the biggest offender, but new courses either need to reduce the amount of short grass around their greens or have softer features. Like Cabot Links.
The most bold thing about Cabot Links is how restrained the whole thing is. It is so not flashy. Probably any other designer would have made a much flashier looking course, but I don't think anyone would have made a better one. If anything, this top 100 course might actually be underrated.
Matt, I couldn't agree with this statement more. Cabot Links is such a nice contrast to many of the influencer-approved
TM new courses, many of which are trying to be too flashy and have too many bold (and overly bold) design features. The shaping is so soft and subtle; it's a real work of art, all the more so because it doesn't scream 'WORK OF ART!!!' at you.