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Andrew Harvie

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This question was brought up at the 25th anniversary/Mashie celebration in Pinehurst this past week by El Prez Vaughn Halyard, but it's an interesting question worth asking the entire group in honour of Donald Ross' birthday (November 23).


So, what Donald Ross golf course do you want to see be restored? There have been a handful of quality Ross renovations this side of the millennia, but I'm curious as to some of the lesser-known Ross courses that could be great in your opinion.


I'll start: Mississaugua in Toronto. While not a pure Ross (George Cumming did the original layout, with Ross overhauling the property), bringing back the Ross features would add a lot to the layout, which is more of a Doug Carrick these days than anything else. Stanley Thompson did renovate shortly after Ross (much like nearby Lambton) which complicates defining who did what in old aerials and photos---though their obvious stylistic differences could be sifted through. Nonetheless, the property has potential, with an aggressive ridge separating the high side holes from the low side, with two holes slowly working their way down into the Credit River valley and the superb 15th thrusting itself back up.


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Chris Hughes

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Holston Hills
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Sean_A

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Grosse Ile


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Rob Marshall

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Simon Barrington

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Kyle Harris

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It’s happening. Almost done.
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Tim Martin

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Ben Malach

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Drew,


not a restoration but I think it would be cool to nuke the Tunnel 9 at Banff as part of the restoration and build a 9 hole short/estate course in the style of Donald Ross.
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mike_malone

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Joe Bausch

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  Actually looking forward to Torresdale Frankford UL


And dreaming bring back Sunnybrook.
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mike_malone

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  Actually looking forward to Torresdale Frankford UL


And dreaming bring back Sunnybrook.


Thought you would say St. David’s.
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Chris Mavros

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Shennecossett in CT.  The only public Ross in the state.  It's a nice play now but could be improved in several ways with some restorative effort.  And they have aerials from the 1930's. 

Tim Martin

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Shennecossett in CT.  The only public Ross in the state.  It's a nice play now but could be improved in several ways with some restorative effort.  And they have aerials from the 1930's.


Chris-I would love to see the Mungeam holes across Eastern Point Rd redone in the Ross style and despite the wonderful setting of the 16th green I wish more chances were taken with the contouring and surrounds. Regardless I agree that it could be improved and is a good pick.

mark chalfant

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Drew,

Congrats on your new role at Golfclubatlas! I definitely appreciate your research and writing. Welcome.
I strongly agree with Sean's suggestion for Grosse Ile, which is located about 25 miles south of Detroit. Lots of potential there! Woodhill in Wayzata, MN has some cool land with movement that is currently obscured by too many trees.
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Matthew Lloyd

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Denison fka Granville - had heard rumors of a Hanse restoration but could never confirm that

John Mayhugh

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Jonathan Cummings

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Dunedin?  Isn't that just completed??


The 1914 East Course at Belleair is about to go under the knife.  I hope its as successful as the West!

Tim Martin

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Ryan Taylor

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Grosse Ile Golf & CC in MI. Incredible set of greens.
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Ryan Taylor

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I'd also like to see Rackham in Huntington Woods, MI be re-purposed. The original front 9 was severely altered to make way for I-696. I think the best use of the land would be to better incorporate the course into the neighborhood by knocking down perimeter fencing and adding walking trails. I'd then propose they add a short course, driving range and putting course and restore 12 or so holes from the original design. They could also go big and restore the Albert Kahn clubhouse which is an architectural marvel.
"Bandon is like Chamonix for skiers or the North Shore of Oahu for surfers,” Rogers said. “It is where those who really care end up."

John Blain

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Pinehurst # 1.

Ronald Montesano

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I'll align with Chris Mavros in the public-course column, but I'll stay closer to my Buffalo home, and nominate Mark Twain in Elmira, NY. MT is a cool little trace, tucked at the base of a foothill in central New York.

My second choice would also be a public one, also close to home, along the NY/PA border. The Chautauqua Institute has two courses, and the older one (Lake) is a Ross. Chris Wilczynski (a capable archie) has developed a restorative plan (https://www.golfcoursearchitecture.net/content/wilczynski-to-restore-chautauquas-lake-course-to-original-ross-design) but I'm not certain if progress has been made in the four years since the publication of the GCA article linked above.
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Mark_Fine

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Pinehurst #2. 


Actually I prefer it not fully restored but please don’t say it is  :-\

Rob Marshall

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Dunedin?  Isn't that just completed??


The 1914 East Course at Belleair is about to go under the knife.  I hope its as successful as the West!




Can they add any length to the East? I remember it being pretty short from the tips.
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Greg Hohman

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Shennecossett in CT.  The only public Ross in the state.  It's a nice play now but could be improved in several ways with some restorative effort.  And they have aerials from the 1930's.


Chris-I would love to see the Mungeam holes across Eastern Point Rd redone in the Ross style and despite the wonderful setting of the 16th green I wish more chances were taken with the contouring and surrounds. Regardless I agree that it could be improved and is a good pick.


See record no. A020176 at the Tufts Archive, which has 91 pp. It didn’t start as a muni. Wonderful b/w illustration there of the routing must have been a promo for the Griswold Hotel.
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