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What would be the Antithesis of the Great GCA Triumvirate's Golf Course Designs
Ben Stephens:
Dear GCA,
The Current Great GCA Triumvirate - Coore + Crenshaw, Doak and Hanse Golf Course Designs over the last quarter of a century has been a big influence/huge trendsetters on many golf course designs and approaches especially on GCA.
Design styles evolves over time as you have seen in the past. I have been very fortunate to work in both Architecture (buildings) and Golf Course Architecture and the evolution of both are similar and opposite at times. In GCA for me there is quite a lack of the opposite of a popular design trend compared with buildings, products and cars etc where there is more variety in design styles.
My question what would you interpret as the Antithesis of the Great GCA Triumvirate's designs?
Cheers
Ben
Simon Barrington:
In purely design terms (not beating on it as it potentially "grows the game") ...
Top Golf
Blatant, obvious, artificial, loud, brash, with prescribed targets.
Ben Stephens:
--- Quote from: Simon Barrington on Yesterday at 02:45:20 AM ---In purely design terms (not beating on it as it potentially "grows the game") ...
Top Golf
Blatant, obvious, artificial, loud, brash, with prescribed targets.
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Was looking from a physical golf course standpoint not a virtual one however you are right the golf course designs are much easier to be different in the virtual world.
Top Golf haven't created their version of a proper 'physical' full length golf course yet - one wonders what it will be like :)
However they have brought in a new generation of golfers and it will be interesting to see how the TGL venture goes whether they will pull it off or not. A friend of mine has raved about Top Tracer which was £12 for 100 balls they said it was worth it.
Sean_A:
I have said this before, Doak is all over the map with his designs. The variety of styles and terrain is about as varied as one could hope for. Beyond Doak, there are all sorts of different size courses being built. Pay more attention to terrain and land use rather than bunker style.
I would also say that the Fazios and Nicklauses are still ploughing their trade. Dig deeper and you will find different styles out there.
So, I will push back against your premise. Why would I possibly want a design trend which focuses on good land (often sand based), attention to detail design and produces courses of all sizes to come to an end? My problem is more that a very small number of these designs are affordable or accessible.
Ciao
Ben Stephens:
--- Quote from: Sean_A on Yesterday at 03:28:49 AM ---I have said this before, Doak is all over the map with his designs. The variety of styles and terrain is about as varied as one could hope for. Beyond Doak, there are all sorts of different size courses being built. Pay more attention to terrain and land use rather than bunker style.
I would also say that the Fazios and Nicklauses are still ploughing their trade. Dig deeper and you will find different styles out there.
So, I will push back against your premise. Why would I possibly want a design trend which focuses on good land (often sand based), attention to detail design and produces courses of all sizes to come to an end? My problem is more that a very small number of these designs are affordable or accessible.
Ciao
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We may see things in a different way for me the 3vate GCA's work are very similar in terms of shaping across the spectrum some courses may look different from a wider eye however if you go closer down to the details it is similar.
I could name a few who have similar design approaches/trends in similar eras
Bob Cupp, Robert Von Hagge, Pete Dye and Desmond Muirhead have produced different ideas which are more out of the box compared with 'regular' golf course designs.
Trent Joneses, Fazio and Nicklaus are similar - 7000 yard tracks.
Colt, Simpson and Braid are similar
Ross and Flynn are similar
CBM and Mackenzie are polar opposites design wise and appearance of their courses are different.
Currently there is not one that stands out to be the polar opposite to the current Great 3vate GCAs (Andrew Green may be the nearest however some of his work is similar). I have not seen a golf course design that makes me jump out of my seat (a few buildings have) - I guess my standards may be too high.
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