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I would be mildly surprised if the 13th hole could survive if it were built today. To be frank, I'm surprised it's survived in it's current form to 2024.
I believe that in a blind taste test of golfers in their 30’s Landmand would beat Sand Hills 5 up with 4 to play.
Quote from: John Kavanaugh on September 23, 2024, 08:39:40 PMI believe that in a blind taste test of golfers in their 30’s Landmand would beat Sand Hills 5 up with 4 to play.What about Ballyneal? Had Bally preceded SH, how would they rank now?
Ballyneal is the gold standard in the 30 something demo. The proximity to Denver puts it a tier above Landmand.
Quote from: Joe Zucker on September 21, 2024, 10:00:02 PMI would be mildly surprised if the 13th hole could survive if it were built today. To be frank, I'm surprised it's survived in it's current form to 2024.You need to hit it at the left edge of the green. There is a bowl there. It is a great hole that rewards those who figure out how to play it and execute a decent shot.
Quote from: Jason Topp on September 24, 2024, 08:58:39 AMQuote from: Joe Zucker on September 21, 2024, 10:00:02 PMI would be mildly surprised if the 13th hole could survive if it were built today. To be frank, I'm surprised it's survived in it's current form to 2024.You need to hit it at the left edge of the green. There is a bowl there. It is a great hole that rewards those who figure out how to play it and execute a decent shot. AGREED. Everyone has different tastes. But I have always thought 13 was one of the best holes on the course. It's a stand out par 3 for me. It requires more strategy than most par 3's and it's beautiful, hard, a half par hole, and a feat if you can par it. I absolutely love it.
Quote from: John Kavanaugh on September 23, 2024, 08:39:40 PMI believe that in a blind taste test of golfers in their 30’s Landmand would beat Sand Hills 5 up with 4 to play.You don't think that 30 year old folks can discern greatness?
Quote from: Tommy Williamsen on September 24, 2024, 10:51:57 AMQuote from: John Kavanaugh on September 23, 2024, 08:39:40 PMI believe that in a blind taste test of golfers in their 30’s Landmand would beat Sand Hills 5 up with 4 to play.You don't think that 30 year old folks can discern greatness?Not at all. I believe that if I had the strength, wisdom and testosterone of a 30 year old I would clearly love Landman more. 30 year olds also never experienced the romance of Sand Hills when it was a mystical destination full of anonymous members. That’s all gone now.
Quote from: Shane Wright on September 24, 2024, 09:29:15 AMQuote from: Jason Topp on September 24, 2024, 08:58:39 AMQuote from: Joe Zucker on September 21, 2024, 10:00:02 PMI would be mildly surprised if the 13th hole could survive if it were built today. To be frank, I'm surprised it's survived in it's current form to 2024.You need to hit it at the left edge of the green. There is a bowl there. It is a great hole that rewards those who figure out how to play it and execute a decent shot. AGREED. Everyone has different tastes. But I have always thought 13 was one of the best holes on the course. It's a stand out par 3 for me. It requires more strategy than most par 3's and it's beautiful, hard, a half par hole, and a feat if you can par it. I absolutely love it. I appreciate the response here. I played 4 rounds there with a scratch, a 2, a 7 and an 8 handicap. In those 16 shots, 0 balls ended up on the green. I can see that Jason is right that the bowl on the left will catch the call and allow it to hold the green. I'd argue that area is far too small to expect a player to hit from 180-200 yards out. Especially on such a windy site. I'm not sure how much strategy is really involved if you should aim for that left bowl regardless of where the pin is?