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A.G._Crockett

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Re: Additions to "Pines" (MP, PN, & SP) portfolio -- fact or fiction?
« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2024, 05:23:18 PM »
Ira/Jim etal
Regarding the "good bed" comment.
When we stayed at the MP Hotel there were only two rooms occupied on our floor.  High season.  The room we had was "rustic."  The bed we slept in may have been the exact bed my parents slept in during the 1960s.  I'm not sure if the sheets were original as well.  The dining room for a romantic dinner with your wife and another couple was "lacking."

A guys trip for 36 holes a day, eating bar food and patio drinking probably works, but don't bring your wives. 

Anthony


I must be lucky; my wife, who is both brilliant and beautiful, likes bar food and patio drinking.  She doesn’t play golf, so she doesn’t go on golf trips with me, but I wouldn’t hesitate a second about the accommodations at MP/PN.  She’d find them quaint and charming and historic, just like I do. 
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Ira Fishman

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Re: Additions to "Pines" (MP, PN, & SP) portfolio -- fact or fiction?
« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2024, 06:09:08 PM »
A.G.


I can “top” you in only one regard: my wife loves golf (probably more than I do). We have been fortunate to travel to some terrific golf locations, but none is as special as MP/PN. We have spent countless hours of enjoyment overlooking MP 18 and chatting at the sunken bar at PN. We are not native North Carolinians nor UNC people, but the patio at MP embodies “If G-d is not a Tar Heel, then why did He make the sky Carolina Blue?” It is just a place that feels as if all is right.


Btw, the food at the grill at SP is pretty darn good as is the view over 18 from that little porch—I hope that they keep it if they redo the clubhouse.


Ira

Peter Sayegh

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Re: Additions to "Pines" (MP, PN, & SP) portfolio -- fact or fiction?
« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2024, 07:12:30 PM »
I've never stayed at the MP/PN accommodations.
Likewise, I've never played with any guest that did NOT opine either option is "dated."
Charm has its limits.
I assume the lodging plan at SP is still extant. Maybe that'll be the petri dish for the sister courses.

Ira Fishman

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Re: Additions to "Pines" (MP, PN, & SP) portfolio -- fact or fiction?
« Reply #28 on: September 20, 2024, 10:52:37 PM »
In thinking about the diversion into lodging, it struck me that having stayed a couple of times at the Pinehurst Resort that I prefer MP/PN. Pinehurst is pretty generic and quite expensive for the quality. Now my wife has stayed at the Pinecrest (which I have not) and thought the restaurant and bar quite good although she prefers MP/PN.


In terms of golf, PH2 is sublime. I have not played 10 yet. But MP/PN/SP are far better than PH 4, 6, and 8.




Peter Sayegh

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Re: Additions to "Pines" (MP, PN, & SP) portfolio -- fact or fiction?
« Reply #29 on: September 22, 2024, 02:26:45 PM »
In terms of golf, PH2 is sublime. I have not played 10 yet. But MP/PN/SP are far better than PH 4, 6, and 8.
Great call Ira.

I also have not played #10 yet, but the MP/PN/SP bundle trumps any three course option PCC has to offer.

Erik J. Barzeski

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Re: Additions to "Pines" (MP, PN, & SP) portfolio -- fact or fiction?
« Reply #30 on: September 22, 2024, 09:23:20 PM »
I also have not played #10 yet, but the MP/PN/SP bundle trumps any three course option PCC has to offer.
2, 4, 10?

Is 4 falling down in favor/rankings?
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Edward Glidewell

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Re: Additions to "Pines" (MP, PN, & SP) portfolio -- fact or fiction?
« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2024, 12:32:00 AM »
I also have not played #10 yet, but the MP/PN/SP bundle trumps any three course option PCC has to offer.
2, 4, 10?

Is 4 falling down in favor/rankings?


I liked 4, but I don't think it's as good as Mid Pines or Southern Pines. I've never played Pine Needles.


Regardless, there are very few places in the country that have a better public trio than MP/PN/SP.

John Blain

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Re: Additions to "Pines" (MP, PN, & SP) portfolio -- fact or fiction?
« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2024, 03:13:09 PM »
In thinking about the diversion into lodging, it struck me that having stayed a couple of times at the Pinehurst Resort that I prefer MP/PN. Pinehurst is pretty generic and quite expensive for the quality. Now my wife has stayed at the Pinecrest (which I have not) and thought the restaurant and bar quite good although she prefers MP/PN.


In terms of golf, PH2 is sublime. I have not played 10 yet. But MP/PN/SP are far better than PH 4, 6, and 8.
Ira-
Reading your posts you seem to be someone who would enjoy staying at the Pine Crest Inn, right in village of PH. It's a wonderful place with lots of history and a great bar!  As the owner Mr. Barrett used to say, "It's a third-class hotel for first class people."

Ira Fishman

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Re: Additions to "Pines" (MP, PN, & SP) portfolio -- fact or fiction?
« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2024, 04:34:27 PM »
In thinking about the diversion into lodging, it struck me that having stayed a couple of times at the Pinehurst Resort that I prefer MP/PN. Pinehurst is pretty generic and quite expensive for the quality. Now my wife has stayed at the Pinecrest (which I have not) and thought the restaurant and bar quite good although she prefers MP/PN.


In terms of golf, PH2 is sublime. I have not played 10 yet. But MP/PN/SP are far better than PH 4, 6, and 8.
Ira-
Reading your posts you seem to be someone who would enjoy staying at the Pine Crest Inn, right in village of PH. It's a wonderful place with lots of history and a great bar!  As the owner Mr. Barrett used to say, "It's a third-class hotel for first class people."


John,


My wife stayed there at my suggestion for a tennis camp at PH. She enjoyed it thoroughly, particularly the bar scene. One day I will get there.

hhuffines

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Re: Additions to "Pines" (MP, PN, & SP) portfolio -- fact or fiction?
« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2024, 01:40:33 PM »
Anyone know of any updates with Whispering Pines?  Thanks!

Tom_Doak

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Re: Additions to "Pines" (MP, PN, & SP) portfolio -- fact or fiction?
« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2024, 05:22:18 PM »

I also have not played #10 yet, but the MP/PN/SP bundle trumps any three course option PCC has to offer.


Mid Pines / Pine Needles is a cool place, and I know a lot of people here love it.  But Pinehurst #10 has changed the equation.  2 + 10 are better than Mid Pines and Pine Needles, so your math in the above is wrong.

Ronald Montesano

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Re: Additions to "Pines" (MP, PN, & SP) portfolio -- fact or fiction?
« Reply #36 on: December 15, 2024, 07:53:50 PM »
The sense that I get from both properties on maps software, is that they could be rebuilt/redesigned without tons of trouble. There are corridors, to be sure, but losing two Ellis Maples courses and two Gene Hamm courses might not be horrific. I might get skewered for that, but 1.5 pages of comments in, and no one has mentioned this point.
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hhuffines

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Re: Additions to "Pines" (MP, PN, & SP) portfolio -- fact or fiction?
« Reply #37 on: December 16, 2024, 08:59:58 PM »
Just bumping this along… apparently Pinewild CC was just sold for $20 million to an investment group and the Triangle Business Journal today wrote that Kelly Miller is eyeing both Whispering Pines and Foxfire.  Any local sources?

A.G._Crockett

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Re: Additions to "Pines" (MP, PN, & SP) portfolio -- fact or fiction?
« Reply #38 on: December 17, 2024, 07:14:06 AM »
Just bumping this along… apparently Pinewild CC was just sold for $20 million to an investment group and the Triangle Business Journal today wrote that Kelly Miller is eyeing both Whispering Pines and Foxfire.  Any local sources?


I think the Pinewild sale was in late 2023.
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Jay Mickle

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Re: Additions to "Pines" (MP, PN, & SP) portfolio -- fact or fiction?
« Reply #39 on: December 17, 2024, 08:10:07 AM »
Just bumping this along… apparently Pinewild CC was just sold for $20 million to an investment group and the Triangle Business Journal today wrote that Kelly Miller is eyeing both Whispering Pines and Foxfire.  Any local sources?


Word on the street is that Pine Needles group after due diligence period decided not to go forward.
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