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Ben Stephens

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OCM at Medinah no 3
« on: July 28, 2024, 04:25:32 PM »
This seems to have gone under the radar on GCA. no.3 was open back for play there are some interesting features as shown on the Fried Egg

Erik J. Barzeski

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Re: OCM at Medinah no 3
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2024, 05:02:43 PM »
"Medinah eyes a debut: After a striking redesign by Australian firm OCM (Geoff Ogilvy, Mike Cocking, and Ashley Mead), Course 3 at Medinah Country Club near Chicago will reopen later this week. The reworked course will host the 2026 Presidents Cup, and we wouldn’t be shocked to see it book additional high-profile tournaments in the near future."


https://x.com/fried_egg_golf/status/1812111788236005874 has a 45-second video.
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Terry Lavin

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Re: OCM at Medinah no 3
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2024, 07:44:03 PM »
It’s a transformational redo. It’s more fun for the members and their guests but still challenging enough for the pros. I’m confident that it will be well received.
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MKrohn

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Re: OCM at Medinah no 3
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2024, 11:54:53 PM »
Nice of the Fried Egg to play OCM's national anthem over the vision.

Buck Wolter

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Re: OCM at Medinah no 3
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2024, 10:05:42 AM »
Mike Cocking was on Derek Duncan's podcast recently -- I listened to the first 30 minutes and it was mainly DD complaining about US golf rather than discussing architecture but he teased a discussion of Medinah so hope to get back to it. Mike was calling in from Tepetonka in Minnesota which I saw a fist pic of online this weekend.


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Ben Stephens

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Re: OCM at Medinah no 3
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2024, 04:31:37 PM »
Have you see their work at Port Lonsdale


https://www.ocm.golf/clients/lonsdale/


There are squarish greens and feature - nice to see fellow architects not afraid to do something different likewise with the fence at no3

JR Potts

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Re: OCM at Medinah no 3
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2024, 09:23:20 AM »
There are few other videos that came out during the course of the project if interested (thank you for you team's work @Andy Johnson)

https://vimeo.com/990161272 - The Fence Holes

https://vimeo.com/982644179 - Course Summary

https://vimeo.com/867986648 - Building Bunkers

https://vimeo.com/904147941 - The Short Course (5 holes)

https://vimeo.com/863691538 - Hole 18

https://vimeo.com/856857612 - Hole 1

Besides adding 40.3 miles of drainage - the first macro drainage project we ever undertook (which is a bit wild considering all the changes over the years) - all greens, fairways, surrounds, lakes, drainage basins, etc. were changed and/or improved.


We opened for member play on July 13th (members only in 2024), 14 months after the first bulldozer hit the property.


OCM was awesome to work with and given the long-distance from their home base, one of O, C or M was on site most every day.  The member response has been fantastic - and I know they can't wait to share it with their friends in the years ahead.
« Last Edit: July 30, 2024, 09:49:39 AM by JR Potts »

Ben Stephens

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Re: OCM at Medinah no 3
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2024, 05:10:42 PM »
I have met Mike Cocking and Ashley Mead both great guys.


Mike is very artistically talented.


Geoff is lucky to have those two guys on board with him

Matthew Rose

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Re: OCM at Medinah no 3
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2024, 01:31:43 AM »
Lonsdale Links is great fun - highly recommend if you ever visit the Bellarine area.

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Bill Seitz

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Re: OCM at Medinah no 3
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2024, 11:20:54 AM »
Was fortunate to get to play Medinah #3 a couple days ago.  Was unfortunate that it was by far the hottest day of the year in Chicago, but most of us survived.


I never had the pleasure of playing the most recent version, but this new version is extremely fun, and compared to how the old version came across on television, I think it's going to be much more interesting and enjoyable for the members.  A great deal of variety.  I think I hit 9 greens and did so with 7 different clubs, and that was from the 6,500 yard tees.  Green surrounds provide a lot of options for recovery, and I think I ended up putting on those shots more often than not.  The fence holes, especially 5 and 6, were great both visually and strategically.  We had a left pin on 6 (we had a lot of really tough pins), and with that flag it's not a hazard you can easily ignore.  If you play away from it off the tee, you're going to deal with it on the approach. 


OCM were on-site for a Q&A and discussion post round, and couldn't have been nicer or more accomodating, and that goes for the staff as well.  Ryan and the rest of the membership should be very pleased with the finished work.  The old version didn't look like a course I'd want to play every day.  I think this looks like a major improvement.  It stands to be seen whether it will test the best in stroke play, but the old version had already shown that it no longer could, and I think this place will be super fun for match play.

Jaeger Kovich

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Re: OCM at Medinah no 3
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2024, 05:24:40 PM »
There are few other videos that came out during the course of the project if interested (thank you for you team's work @Andy Johnson)

https://vimeo.com/990161272 - The Fence Holes

https://vimeo.com/982644179 - Course Summary

https://vimeo.com/867986648 - Building Bunkers

https://vimeo.com/904147941 - The Short Course (5 holes)

https://vimeo.com/863691538 - Hole 18

https://vimeo.com/856857612 - Hole 1

Besides adding 40.3 miles of drainage - the first macro drainage project we ever undertook (which is a bit wild considering all the changes over the years) - all greens, fairways, surrounds, lakes, drainage basins, etc. were changed and/or improved.


We opened for member play on July 13th (members only in 2024), 14 months after the first bulldozer hit the property.


OCM was awesome to work with and given the long-distance from their home base, one of O, C or M was on site most every day.  The member response has been fantastic - and I know they can't wait to share it with their friends in the years ahead.


Great stuff. Congrats!

Matthew Rose

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Re: OCM at Medinah no 3
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2024, 12:04:24 AM »
I remember someone (maybe an assistant pro?) said they wanted it to be as far removed from the 2012 Ryder Cup course as they could make it. Seems like mission accomplished.
American-Australian. Trackman Course Guy. Fatalistic sports fan. Drummer. Bass player. Father. Cat lover.

Adam G

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Re: OCM at Medinah no 3
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2024, 09:21:24 AM »
Per Andy at Fried Egg the President's cup is going to reroute the course with 5 as #1 and 4 as #18 to maximize corporate hospitality on the closing holes. Which is just crazy as 16-18 is an amazing match play finish. But to top it off, apparently the PGA tour complained there wasn't a practice green at 5 tee for their re-route...

Bill Seitz

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Re: OCM at Medinah no 3
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2024, 10:52:48 AM »
Per Andy at Fried Egg the President's cup is going to reroute the course with 5 as #1 and 4 as #18 to maximize corporate hospitality on the closing holes. Which is just crazy as 16-18 is an amazing match play finish. But to top it off, apparently the PGA tour complained there wasn't a practice green at 5 tee for their re-route...


The members that we played with said that one of the reasons they were doing it was so that every match would get to 16-18. They are great holes, but they only make for a great match play finish if the matches actually get there.