It's a fairly obvious answer to the first question is it not? Why do pressure groups exist?
I disagree that this was the way to go about it. It's a member club, and I'm not a member, so what am I going to do to "pressure" anyone into doing anything. John could have brought this to members. To Kris directly.
I've played Holston Hills, but complaining about it and bagging on an architect (without first having talked to the architect directly) accomplishes little, IMO.
You're going to have to explain to me how paraphrasing something a person wrote would be considered aggressively critiquing.
You're mocking, slightly, with "Think about that".
I wrote:The original features from 1927 did not agree with Mr. Spence's beliefs so he altered them.
That's not the part I quoted.
Erik J
Clearly you think I'm wrong here, but you keep using inaccuracies to criticize me.
You call Holston Hills a "member club." I'm not sure what you mean by that term. The club has members, but it's owned by an outside company and managed by that company. There is no board, no green committee, etc.
You said I could have brought my concerns to members. What members? I am a member! You'll have to explain how the process of me complaining to other members is supposed to work.
As I've tried to explain multiple times, I do not believe I should have contacted Spence. First off, I did not know initially that he chose to make the changes to the 15th hole. I thought it was more likely directed by corporate owners - who he works for - so that's who I contacted.
Now you say I'm "bagging on an architect." You'll need to explain that to me. It a website for the frank discussion of golf course architecture. If I cannot say that I disagree with a decision to change the course, then what is the purpose of this discussion board?
Finally, is it "aggressively critiquing" or "mocking, slightly" when I paraphrase what the architect wrote?
If you mean that saying "think about that" in response to Ben Stephens was "mocking, slightly" or "aggressively critiquing," then I really don't know how you function day to day. I do think altering a nearly 100 year old feature because it doesn't look good to you warrants thought. I'm not mocking. If having a different opinion is "aggressively critiquing," well someone needs to.