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Bruce Katona

"If my words did glow with the gold of sunshine
And my tunes were played on the harp unstrung
Would you hear my voice come through the music
Would you hold it near as it were your own....."
Robert Hunter, Jerome Garcia


Steve_ Shaffer

Re: Top Bid for Pennsylvania Golf Course $1.1 Million
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2024, 09:51:10 AM »

Here's the link of the course:
https://www.ccppagolf.com/aboutus/
"Some of us worship in churches, some in synagogues, some on golf courses ... "  Adlai Stevenson
Hyman Roth to Michael Corleone: "We're bigger than US Steel."
Ben Hogan “The most important shot in golf is the next one”

Joe Bausch

« Last Edit: June 25, 2024, 01:27:26 PM by Joe Bausch »
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The site for the Cobb's Creek project:  https://cobbscreek.org/
Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

Joe Bausch

Re: Top Bid for Pennsylvania Golf Course $1.1 Million
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2024, 01:32:14 PM »
The hole-sequencing at the CC of the Poconos is not compact:


@jwbausch (for new photo albums)
The site for the Cobb's Creek project:  https://cobbscreek.org/
Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

Peter Bowman

Re: Top Bid for Pennsylvania Golf Course $1.1 Million
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2024, 04:39:44 PM »
This goes to show that many/most golf courses don't hold their value compared to their construction costs, leading to depreciation. 
Is most of a course's value is in the cash flow and real estate (as raw land), and not the goodwill?
Hooper sold for a number that I though was very low, compared to the cost of developing the course all over again.

Steve_ Shaffer

Re: Top Bid for Pennsylvania Golf Course $1.1 Million
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2024, 05:34:59 PM »
The other golf courses/clubs in The Poconos:
!. The CC of Woodloch Springs
2. Mount Airy , a Hal Purdy design
3. Pocono Hills GC
4. The Shawnee Inn&  Resort, A.W. Tillinghast's first design in 1911. There was some talk about Tom Doak doing a  Reno about 15 years ago but it fell through.

5. Skytop Lodge GC
6. Split Rock GC
7. Jack Frost GC

https://www.poconomountains.com/blog/post/guide-to-pocono-golf-courses/
Shawnee is top notch. Jack Frost is a sleeper.
« Last Edit: June 25, 2024, 05:37:11 PM by Steve_ Shaffer »
"Some of us worship in churches, some in synagogues, some on golf courses ... "  Adlai Stevenson
Hyman Roth to Michael Corleone: "We're bigger than US Steel."
Ben Hogan “The most important shot in golf is the next one”

MCirba

Re: Top Bid for Pennsylvania Golf Course $1.1 Million
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2024, 06:36:48 AM »
Love the safari routing from 16 to 17.   Hope there's a gas station on that route.  ;)
"Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent" - Calvin Coolidge

https://cobbscreek.org/

Adrian_Stiff

Re: Top Bid for Pennsylvania Golf Course $1.1 Million
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2024, 06:43:21 AM »
The routing was either done by a clown or was very difficult. Some huge hikes there.


Incredibly cheap price assuming its freehold.
A combination of whats good for golf and good for turf.
The Players Club, Cumberwell Park, The Kendleshire, Oake Manor, Dainton Park, Forest Hills, Erlestoke, St Cleres.
www.theplayersgolfclub.com

Nate Oxman

Re: Top Bid for Pennsylvania Golf Course $1.1 Million
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2024, 02:35:31 PM »
The other golf courses/clubs in The Poconos:
!. The CC of Woodloch Springs
2. Mount Airy , a Hal Purdy design
3. Pocono Hills GC
4. The Shawnee Inn&  Resort, A.W. Tillinghast's first design in 1911. There was some talk about Tom Doak doing a  Reno about 15 years ago but it fell through.

5. Skytop Lodge GC
6. Split Rock GC
7. Jack Frost GC

https://www.poconomountains.com/blog/post/guide-to-pocono-golf-courses/
Shawnee is top notch. Jack Frost is a sleeper.


There are also Pocono Manor GC (Ross & Flynn), which is the best golf course in the Poconos, and Buck Hill Falls GC (Ross, White, and others I think), which is probably the second best. They're both better than Shawnee.

Steve_ Shaffer

Re: Top Bid for Pennsylvania Golf Course $1.1 Million
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2024, 02:53:08 PM »
@ Nate:
I forgot about Pocono Manor. I miss going there as I'm in Arizona.

https://www.golfpoconomanor.com/history

I liked Shawnee and the 3 holes on an island in the Delaware River.
« Last Edit: June 28, 2024, 05:35:42 PM by Steve_ Shaffer »
"Some of us worship in churches, some in synagogues, some on golf courses ... "  Adlai Stevenson
Hyman Roth to Michael Corleone: "We're bigger than US Steel."
Ben Hogan “The most important shot in golf is the next one”

Carl Johnson

Re: Top Bid for Pennsylvania Golf Course $1.1 Million
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2024, 04:20:17 PM »
About 18 months ago the Mount Mitchell Golf Club, western N.C., daily fee, sold for $1.1 million as I recall.

Joe Bausch

Re: Top Bid for Pennsylvania Golf Course $1.1 Million
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2024, 06:01:34 PM »
The other golf courses/clubs in The Poconos:
!. The CC of Woodloch Springs
2. Mount Airy , a Hal Purdy design
3. Pocono Hills GC
4. The Shawnee Inn&  Resort, A.W. Tillinghast's first design in 1911. There was some talk about Tom Doak doing a  Reno about 15 years ago but it fell through.

5. Skytop Lodge GC
6. Split Rock GC
7. Jack Frost GC

https://www.poconomountains.com/blog/post/guide-to-pocono-golf-courses/
Shawnee is top notch. Jack Frost is a sleeper.


There are also Pocono Manor GC (Ross & Flynn), which is the best golf course in the Poconos, and Buck Hill Falls GC (Ross, White, and others I think), which is probably the second best. They're both better than Shawnee.


I’ll co-sign this post.
@jwbausch (for new photo albums)
The site for the Cobb's Creek project:  https://cobbscreek.org/
Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

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