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Ben Sims

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Re: 4 at Riviera
« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2024, 11:40:48 AM »
Joel,


I haven’t played on kikuyu as much as you have, but I have played on it enough to know that I consider its impact to be overtstated. Let me be clear, I didn’t say *no* impact. I said I think its impact on play to be overstated. Moisture content and the associated firmness in concert with slope have bigger impacts to how a balls reacts on green surrounds, in my opinion.

I think a great redan, which I consider Riv’s version to be, really requires commitment to intent. The best shots I saw were either a high fade or a low draw. They weren’t weak versions of those shots either. Cantlay’s faded 7 wood on Saturday was sky high. Schauffele’s draw on Sunday was pretty low. I think great redans beg for the execution of the selected shot to be very good.


The biggest complaints I saw about the hole was that the GIR was low. Thinking about commitment to the intent of a shot, I’m not sure how changing from kikuyu would change the GIR percentages enough to somehow make the hole palatable to the people making that argument.