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Joe Bausch

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hole-sequence the golf course contest
« on: December 23, 2023, 02:01:49 PM »
This season I played a course where the hole-sequencing was, well, interesting!

I now challenge my hard-core GCA nuts (perhaps Cousin Eddie is over and you need a reason to retreat to your man-cave) to put together the order of holes 2-18 from the given diagram below. I've indicated where hole 1 is located, and note the clubhouse is at the red dot. [Note: the par 5 hole right along the highway is not #1 but rather letter I]

Here are two clues to help you perhaps get it right:

1. The course has returning nines.

and

2. There are three long green to tee walks.

Good luck, and Happy and Merry and all that good seasonal stuff!

(this image is clickable to a larger size)

« Last Edit: December 23, 2023, 03:41:56 PM by Joe Bausch »
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Joe Bausch

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Re: hole-sequence the golf course contest
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2023, 02:08:08 PM »
Use the following as a template for your submission:


Hole 2: letter
Hole 3: letter
Hole 4: letter
Hole 5: letter
Hole 6: letter
Hole 7: letter
Hole 8: letter
Hole 9: letter
Hole 10: letter
Hole 11: letter
Hole 12: letter
Hole 13: letter
Hole 14: letter
Hole 15: letter
Hole 16: letter
Hole 17: letter
Hole 18: letter
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The site for the Cobb's Creek project:  https://cobbscreek.org/
Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

Kalen Braley

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Re: hole-sequence the golf course contest
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2023, 02:54:47 PM »
Joe,

This is evil, so many permutations to pick from.  I love it!

Here is my swag:

Hole
2   H
3   L
4   G
5   A
6   P
7   M
8   J
9   D
10   I
11   F
12   C
13   N
14   Q
15   O
16   B
17   K
18   E





Joe Bausch

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Re: hole-sequence the golf course contest
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2023, 03:01:48 PM »
Joe,

This is evil, so many permutations to pick from.  I love it!

Here is my swag:

Hole
2   H
3   L
4   G
5   A
6   P
7   M
8   J
9   D
10   I
11   F
12   C
13   N
14   Q
15   O
16   B
17   K
18   E

You did pretty darn well!

You have a couple of sequences of holes correct. You have an early stretch of holes (6 of them) sequenced in the right order (but incorrect hole numbers), and late you have a stretch of 7 holes sequenced in the right order (but incorrect hole numbers).
@jwbausch (for new photo albums)
The site for the Cobb's Creek project:  https://cobbscreek.org/
Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

Erik Mosley

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Re: hole-sequence the golf course contest
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2023, 03:32:05 PM »
Tough one! Let's try this...

Hole 2: H
Hole 3: C
Hole 4: N
Hole 5: Q
Hole 6: O
Hole 7: B
Hole 8: K
Hole 9: E
Hole 10: I
Hole 11: F
Hole 12: L
Hole 13: G
Hole 14: A
Hole 15: P
Hole 16: M
Hole 17: J
Hole 18: D

Joe Bausch

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Re: hole-sequence the golf course contest
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2023, 03:39:27 PM »
Tough one! Let's try this...

Hole 2: H
Hole 3: C
Hole 4: N
Hole 5: Q
Hole 6: O
Hole 7: B
Hole 8: K
Hole 9: E
Hole 10: I
Hole 11: F
Hole 12: L
Hole 13: G
Hole 14: A
Hole 15: P
Hole 16: M
Hole 17: J
Hole 18: D


Ding, ding, ding!

Winner, winner....
@jwbausch (for new photo albums)
The site for the Cobb's Creek project:  https://cobbscreek.org/
Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

Joe Bausch

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Re: hole-sequence the golf course contest
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2023, 03:43:03 PM »
This is the hole-sequencing at Eagle Creek GC (Dover AFB, DE):

(this image clickable to a larger size)

« Last Edit: December 23, 2023, 04:04:54 PM by Joe Bausch »
@jwbausch (for new photo albums)
The site for the Cobb's Creek project:  https://cobbscreek.org/
Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

Kalen Braley

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Re: hole-sequence the golf course contest
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2023, 04:37:40 PM »
Very nice Erik,

Dealing with that little peninsula of 5 and 6 looks to have been awkward routing wise, and 13 looks like a good hole, at least from the aerial view. 

Fun activity Joe!

Matt_Cohn

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Re: hole-sequence the golf course contest
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2023, 04:56:11 PM »
Poppy Ridge would be a good one for this, too!



Niall C

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Re: hole-sequence the golf course contest
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2023, 05:22:17 PM »
Joe


How much was the taxi ride from 4th green to the 5th tee ?  ;D


Niall

Joe Bausch

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Re: hole-sequence the golf course contest
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2023, 05:36:57 PM »
Joe

How much was the taxi ride from 4th green to the 5th tee ?  ;D

Niall

Mike T and I were both very tired at the end of the round.

At this URL is a complete hole-by-hole tour of Eagle Creek for those interested:

http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/albums/EagleCreek/index.html
@jwbausch (for new photo albums)
The site for the Cobb's Creek project:  https://cobbscreek.org/
Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

Kalen Braley

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Re: hole-sequence the golf course contest
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2023, 05:55:07 PM »
According to Google Earth, the 3 longest transitions are (approx):

4 green to 5 tee - 300 yards
8 green to 9 tee - 280 yards
12 green to 13 tee - 220 yards

mike_malone

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Re: hole-sequence the golf course contest
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2023, 06:34:28 PM »
My bet is that it is flat. In that area of Delaware the highest points are overpasses!!
AKA Mayday

Joe Bausch

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Re: hole-sequence the golf course contest
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2023, 07:06:34 PM »
My bet is that it is flat. In that area of Delaware the highest points are overpasses!!


I thought it would be dead flat. And it was close to it in most places.
@jwbausch (for new photo albums)
The site for the Cobb's Creek project:  https://cobbscreek.org/
Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

mike_malone

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Re: hole-sequence the golf course contest
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2023, 07:33:38 PM »
So that leads to the question why the long green to tee ?
AKA Mayday

Joe Bausch

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Re: hole-sequence the golf course contest
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2023, 07:53:52 PM »
So that leads to the question why the long green to tee ?

Trying to figure that one out using Historic Aerials.

Me thinks the course has changed over the years.
« Last Edit: December 24, 2023, 08:42:29 PM by Joe Bausch »
@jwbausch (for new photo albums)
The site for the Cobb's Creek project:  https://cobbscreek.org/
Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

Matt_Cohn

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Re: hole-sequence the golf course contest
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2023, 08:34:07 PM »
Oops, I meant to include a Poppy Ridge pic if anyone wants to try.  ;D



Joe Bausch

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Re: hole-sequence the golf course contest
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2023, 08:59:55 PM »
Matt, you probably need to find a way to add letters to all the holes so people can easily give you their routing in an understandable way.
@jwbausch (for new photo albums)
The site for the Cobb's Creek project:  https://cobbscreek.org/
Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

Jim_Coleman

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Re: hole-sequence the golf course contest
« Reply #18 on: December 25, 2023, 07:47:06 AM »
    This is this website’s version of the NYT Connections game.

Kalen Braley

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Re: hole-sequence the golf course contest
« Reply #19 on: December 25, 2023, 03:35:45 PM »
So that leads to the question why the long green to tee ?

Trying to figure that one out using Historic Aerials.

Me thinks the course has changed over the years.

Joe,

In 1961 it looks to be a 9 holer, and the area for holes 5, 6 and 7 and 13 tee were certainly not in use.

And by 1981 was converted into the 18 holer that exists today.  (The 1982 aerial makes the current routing pretty easy to identify)

Mark Kiely

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Re: hole-sequence the golf course contest
« Reply #20 on: December 25, 2023, 04:05:36 PM »
Looks like walkers could leave their bag on the edge of the 13th fairway after 12 and just carry their driver back to 13 tee. That's kinda fun.
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Matt_Cohn

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Re: hole-sequence the golf course contest
« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2023, 12:40:46 PM »
Matt, you probably need to find a way to add letters to all the holes so people can easily give you their routing in an understandable way.


Okay, hopefully this one works! There are 3 nines: Zinfandel starts with G, Chardonnay starts with T, and Merlot starts with P. The cart paths help a little.  :P  Answers below the picture!





Answers:
Zinfandel: GCFJMEBAI
Chardonnay: TU&ZNLKDH
Merlot: PQRSVWXYO
« Last Edit: December 26, 2023, 01:26:36 PM by Matt_Cohn »

Joe Bausch

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Re: hole-sequence the golf course contest
« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2023, 06:28:02 AM »
So that leads to the question why the long green to tee ?

Trying to figure that one out using Historic Aerials.

Me thinks the course has changed over the years.

Joe,

In 1961 it looks to be a 9 holer, and the area for holes 5, 6 and 7 and 13 tee were certainly not in use.

And by 1981 was converted into the 18 holer that exists today.  (The 1982 aerial makes the current routing pretty easy to identify)


And I read it was 11 holes in 1969!
@jwbausch (for new photo albums)
The site for the Cobb's Creek project:  https://cobbscreek.org/
Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

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