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David Ober

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Re: The California course that is no longer shrouded in mystery
« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2024, 10:43:43 AM »
I will say this (and that) about Coachella Valley golf:

I have played dozens and dozens of courses out there but recently have missed some of the most exclusive of them.

What I can say is that Clive Clark's course at The Hideaway is among my favorites -- and I only played 10 or 11 holes (it was late in the day and and we had to rush around to finish. Quite atypical in that it definitely has some holes that feel very "non-deserty," which is great. In particular, there's a par 5 "Alps" with a giant mound in front of it that you either have to negotiate by going over, or you have to play around and to the left. Loved it.

Paul Richards

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Re: The California course that is no longer shrouded in mystery
« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2025, 10:34:02 PM »
Any update on who to contact to visit here?
"Something has to change, otherwise the never-ending arms race that benefits only a few manufacturers will continue to lead to longer courses, narrower fairways, smaller greens, more rough, more expensive rounds, and other mechanisms that will leave golf's future in doubt." -  TFOG

Paul Jones

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Re: The California course that is no longer shrouded in mystery
« Reply #27 on: Yesterday at 08:38:19 PM »
Who designed the course?
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Daryl David

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Re: The California course that is no longer shrouded in mystery
« Reply #28 on: Yesterday at 09:03:08 PM »
Who designed the course?


Which course are you asking about? If it the Hideaway Clive course then it’s Clive Clark. If you are talking about Ladera, then it’s Gil Hanse.

Paul Jones

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Re: The California course that is no longer shrouded in mystery
« Reply #29 on: Yesterday at 09:56:39 PM »
Who designed the course?


Which course are you asking about? If it the Hideaway Clive course then it’s Clive Clark. If you are talking about Ladera, then it’s Gil Hanse.


Sorry, I was talking about Porcupine Creek.  Opening post states that Annika, Wieskopf and Stockton had hand in shaping holes.
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