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Marty Bonnar

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My Declaration of Arbroath
« on: February 28, 2019, 05:10:45 PM »
Warning: Photo-free Review (horrible, misty day).
In Scotland in April 1320, a letter was sent from King Robert I to Pope John XXII, confirming Scotland’s status as an independent nation. The letter, now popularly known as The Declaration of Arbroath, was - probably - written by Bernard of Kilwinning in Arbroath Abbey and, as a major element in Scotland’s self-determination, assigns a very prominent place for Arbroath in the Country’s long, complicated history.
The town of Arbroath is the largest in Angus, the home County of a number of fine golf courses including Carnoustie, Montrose and Monifieth - High company, indeed.
Whilst it’s fair to say that while the Links at Arbroath doesn’t quite reach the heady heights of its local neighbours, it can most certainly hold its head high as a very decent, if slightly unremarkable, golf experience.
Like its near neighbour, Panmure, it starts out and ends playing over fairly mediocre, flattish terrain, albeit to a number of interesting, well-contoured greensites. Similar to many’s a Scottish Links, the Course follows the sea on a simple out-and-back routing, but it’s not until the sixth hole, do we encounter the kind of rolling, rollicking swells that fill the dreams of the avid GCAer.
There follows a number of fine, shortish but tricky holes which require a sensible, even Presbyterian, approach to achieve a decent return on playing investment.
There’s a number of crossings of a small burn on a good few holes which requires some attention and out-of-bounds on the right side of the entire Course. Keeping everything left ensures safety, but creates some tricky approaches to greens, very reminiscent of TOC!
A small, solid, typical east-of-Scotland clubhouse and a decent pro shop with a fabulous incumbent enhance the experience greatly.
I had a ball playing with a good friend and a couple of, ahem, senior members who, most graciously, only chose to beat us 2 and 1.
Highly recommended as a light day amongst the mental and physical onslaught of your next Scotland trip. Give it a try - you might like it!
F.

The White River runs dark through the heart of the Town,
Washed the people coal-black from the hole in the ground.

David McIntosh

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Re: My Declaration of Arbroath
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2019, 07:34:26 PM »
Marty,

Thanks for the recommendation. I’ve passed Arbroath countless times on the train and by car but haven’t stopped in yet for a game.

Looks interesting enough, from what I’ve seen whizzing by on train anyway! Could maybe try to play it whenever I get round to addressing the other glaring omission from my Angus resume - Forfar...I’m sure I’ve heard somewhere that it’s rather good.  ;D

Marty Bonnar

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Re: My Declaration of Arbroath
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2019, 07:49:56 AM »
Marty,

Thanks for the recommendation. I’ve passed Arbroath countless times on the train and by car but haven’t stopped in yet for a game.

Looks interesting enough, from what I’ve seen whizzing by on train anyway! Could maybe try to play it whenever I get round to addressing the other glaring omission from my Angus resume - Forfar...I’m sure I’ve heard somewhere that it’s rather good.  ;D


David,
The course’s architectural history begins with OTM, followed by Willie Fernie and completed by James Braid, so it’s not too surprising that there’s some decent stuff there.
The operating model is the very typical Scottish, public-owned Links with a private Club attached, so there’s the usual issues with funding. Maintenance levels and quality are pretty decent though, with greens running true (for the time of year!) and bunkers in decent nick with some ongoing revetting work taking place. They are currently renewing the irrigation, so they must have secured some Council money for that!
Cheers,
F.
The White River runs dark through the heart of the Town,
Washed the people coal-black from the hole in the ground.

Thomas Dai

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Re: My Declaration of Arbroath
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2019, 01:17:45 PM »
There have been a couple of GCA threads about Arbroath. The first one mentioned below includes some photos.


http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,60054.msg1462842.html#msg1462842


and


http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,15348.msg262773.html#msg262773


Worth playing.


atb

Niall C

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Re: My Declaration of Arbroath
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2019, 09:00:30 AM »
FBD

Like David, I've never played it. The nearest I got to it was on the way there with the intention of playing and it driving by Forfar. One glimpse of Forfar from the road was enough to make me abandon the original plan. Arbroath is still very much on the hit-list of those I want to play.

Perhaps a Spring get together similar to what we did at Gullane a few years ago ? Anyone up for it ?

Niall

Jon Wiggett

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Re: My Declaration of Arbroath
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2019, 01:40:23 PM »


Perhaps a Spring get together similar to what we did at Gullane a few years ago ? Anyone up for it ?

Niall



Count me in Niall.


David McIntosh

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Re: My Declaration of Arbroath
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2019, 03:25:48 PM »
Niall,

I’d like to play Arbroath so would be up for it too if we can find a date that works for most.

ward peyronnin

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Re: My Declaration of Arbroath
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2019, 04:28:47 PM »
Gents
I want to play both and will strive to do so this August on my way to Cruden Bay. Can you all tell me the nature of those  interesting "cops" ? I do relish unusual small features that are unique to a course.
"Golf is happiness. It's intoxication w/o the hangover; stimulation w/o the pills. It's price is high yet its rewards are richer. Some say its a boys pastime but it builds men. It cleanses the mind/rejuvenates the body. It is these things and many more for those of us who truly love it." M.Norman

Brian_Ewen

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Re: My Declaration of Arbroath
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2020, 05:17:55 AM »
Arbroath Golf club - Golfers be grateful for these people

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Vt54JIcypc
« Last Edit: October 14, 2020, 05:20:14 AM by Brian_Ewen »

Tommy Williamsen

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Re: My Declaration of Arbroath
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2020, 10:20:09 AM »
Thanks for this. I had not heard of Arbroath. That's what I love about this site. There still are some hidden gems for some of us. Good for those volunteers. God bless 'em.
Where there is no love, put love; there you will find love.
St. John of the Cross

"Deep within your soul-space is a magnificent cathedral where you are sweet beyond telling." Rumi

Stan Dodd

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Re: My Declaration of Arbroath
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2020, 11:36:42 AM »
Marty,
Played it  on my first trip and regret not having been back since.  It was when I got to the 6th that I thought, wow
  this is really fun.


Bernie Bell

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Re: My Declaration of Arbroath
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2020, 12:33:42 PM »
The fellow who made that Youtube -- "Average Golfer" -- has other videos in a series called Scotland's Less Obvious, which I enjoy.  I also like "less obvious" much better than "second tier" or similar locutions. 

Brian_Ewen

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Re: My Declaration of Arbroath
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2020, 12:47:05 PM »
The fellow who made that Youtube -- "Average Golfer" -- has other videos in a series called Scotland's Less Obvious, which I enjoy.  I also like "less obvious" much better than "second tier" or similar locutions.


Yes, he's worth a follow.


The Panmure one earlier this month is also worth a watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Crc5aS8OHc

He was spotted filming at Stonehaven a month or so back, so I guess it was must be due soon.



Brian Finn

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Re: My Declaration of Arbroath
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2023, 02:05:22 PM »
I've been reading a bit about Arbroath recently, as it was one of the courses in this region with which I was not familiar.  If staying in this area for a few days, how would you recommend I prioritize Arbroath?  Let's assume Carnoustie Championship, Panmure, Montrose Old, and Monifieth Medal are covered.  Which courses should one seek out first among:

Arbroath
Carnoustie Buddon
Carnoustie Burnside
Monifieth Ashludie
Montrose Broomfield
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Sean_A

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Re: My Declaration of Arbroath
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2023, 08:33:12 PM »
I've been reading a bit about Arbroath recently, as it was one of the courses in this region with which I was not familiar.  If staying in this area for a few days, how would you recommend I prioritize Arbroath?  Let's assume Carnoustie Championship, Panmure, Montrose Old, and Monifieth Medal are covered.  Which courses should one seek out first among:

Arbroath
Carnoustie Buddon
Carnoustie Burnside
Monifieth Ashludie
Montrose Broomfield

Of the above I have Ashludie targeted. I would be surprised and pleased as punch if it is in the same quality range as Burnside.

Ciao
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Brian_Ewen

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Re: My Declaration of Arbroath
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2023, 03:35:41 AM »

I've been reading a bit about Arbroath recently, as it was one of the courses in this region with which I was not familiar.  If staying in this area for a few days, how would you recommend I prioritize Arbroath?  Let's assume Carnoustie Championship, Panmure, Montrose Old, and Monifieth Medal are covered.  Which courses should one seek out first among:

Arbroath
Carnoustie Buddon
Carnoustie Burnside
Monifieth Ashludie
Montrose Broomfield

Definitely Arbroath.

Thomas Dai

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Re: My Declaration of Arbroath
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2023, 11:20:12 AM »
Arbroath is well worth playing.
Atb