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Scott_Burroughs

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Aerial of the Day #448 (and #449) - 5 Dec 2003
« on: December 05, 2003, 09:41:49 AM »
Much smaller versions of this one have been shown by a few
people in the past, but not as good as this one.

That 13th tee shot looks as treed and narrow as on Cypress Point #18.

A fight to the finish.

One of my favorite aerials.

Enjoy.




Not sure how I decided on this stumper, but I guess I like the
name.  Might even be Native American.  A major was held here.

Pretty good vatiation in hole directions:

« Last Edit: October 21, 2004, 12:06:08 AM by Scott_Burroughs »

THuckaby2

Re:Aerial of the Day #448 (and #449) - 5 Dec 2003
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2003, 09:43:59 AM »
#1 hits a little close to home...

I like the fight to the finish clue!

TH

Neil Regan

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Re:Aerial of the Day #448 (and #449) - 5 Dec 2003
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2003, 09:54:00 AM »
#1 has one of the most difficult openings in golf (the entranceway).
Grass speed  <>  Green Speed

Tommy_Naccarato

Re:Aerial of the Day #448 (and #449) - 5 Dec 2003
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2003, 10:50:06 AM »
#1--A place where you could literally fall out of your car and be on the first tee.

"Senator Terry, I object to your ideas that slavery will soon be a thing of the past sir. I believe its your draw!"

Cal Trans Right Of Way Engineer--"Sir, I thought we told you we were going to avoid the golf course after all!?!?

(To all, my Dad was a Right of Way Engineer for Cal Trans for 43 years, thankfully he wasn't responsible for this debacle!)

"Yes, the directions to get there are real simple, your traveling down Brotherhood Way, East, then you make the turn on to Junipero Serra, but while your making that turn, all of a sudden, you make a quick right turn like your going to the back of the church-your there! Got it?"--the dialog from asking a local how to get to this place.

« Last Edit: December 05, 2003, 10:52:30 AM by Tommy_Naccarato »

Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Aerial of the Day #448 (and #449) - 5 Dec 2003
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2003, 10:52:43 AM »
#1:

Ready, aim, FIRE!

Neighbor to 3 previous AOTDs (all from the same club) and a few drivers from another.

Supposed to have a great old locker room.


#2:

Early U.S. Open was held here.

Last of many AOTDs from this 'zephyrous' area.

Relative of architect interviewed on GCA.com

Mike Benham

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Re:Aerial of the Day #448 (and #449) - 5 Dec 2003
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2003, 11:12:29 AM »
#1 might also be known for the number of bunkers on the
course ...

Mondays may be the busiest day of play ...

Did Bechtel Corp build the course?  If not, they probably pay a fair share of the monthly dues (I have heard) ...

Is John Daly from around these parts?

A wanna-be PGA, USGA tournament site is just northwest of here ...

This course makes this region unbeatable :) in the current "Survivor" series ...
« Last Edit: December 05, 2003, 11:15:14 AM by Mike Benham »
"... and I liked the guy ..."

Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Aerial of the Day #448 (and #449) - 5 Dec 2003
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2003, 11:21:01 AM »
This course makes this region unbeatable :) in the current "Survivor" series ...

Assuming you're including the MP area in that assessment!   ;D

Though I still might choose Long Island....
« Last Edit: December 05, 2003, 11:21:26 AM by Scott_Burroughs »

Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Aerial of the Day #448 (and #449) - 5 Dec 2003
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2003, 11:53:43 AM »
#1 is known for it's privacy and no cameras rule.  
Only "exposure" was a Curtis Cup almost 30 years ago.

A Walker Cup sounds like a good fit for here.  If Mr. Tatum
tried, I supposed it could happen.

Doak recently did some restoration work here.

#2:  Alex Smith was victorious here.

Routing and bunkering looks interesting, but have never heard
much good said about the course.

In "pond woods" suburban town of 2nd city.

Mike Hendren

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Re:Aerial of the Day #448 (and #449) - 5 Dec 2003
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2003, 12:00:10 PM »
#1:

Supposed to have a great old locker room.

Scott,

When I was there earlier this year, there were a couple of real pistols in the locker room.

Mike
Two Corinthians walk into a bar ....

THuckaby2

Re:Aerial of the Day #448 (and #449) - 5 Dec 2003
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2003, 12:46:01 PM »
Not just old pistols... I'm pretty sure
they are THE real pistols
used for said "fight to the finish"...

And yes, this locker room is very old (for
this state anyway) and very cool.  ;)

TH


Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Aerial of the Day #448 (and #449) - 5 Dec 2003
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2003, 01:17:35 PM »
#1 I believe is in every mags' Top 20.

Is this this "uncategorizable" architect's best work?  On the
opoposite coast from most of his (best) stuff?

Was virtually treeless when first built.


#2:

ugh, can't think of many more clues.  wouldn't surprised me if
it was rather flat, as is common among courses in this, my kinda town.

You can Foulis some of the time, but not all of the time.

Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Aerial of the Day #448 (and #449) - 5 Dec 2003
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2003, 01:43:41 PM »
sorry, I erred in the family of #2 architect comment   :P :-[ :-\.
  It was "just" a writer, but the topic was about the family of the archtiect.
« Last Edit: December 05, 2003, 01:43:56 PM by Scott_Burroughs »

Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Aerial of the Day #448 (and #449) - 5 Dec 2003
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2003, 03:37:46 PM »
#1 is San Francisco GC, in SF, CA, designed by A.W.
Tillinghast.  SFGS hosted the 1974 Curtis Cup, but otherwise
values it's intense privacy, not allowing cameras.


One available picture is from the 2003 GD Page-a-Day calendar of #10:



other clues include:

"A fight to the finish.", "Senator Terry, I object to your ideas
that slavery will soon be a thing of the past sir. I believe its
your draw!", and "Ready, aim, FIRE" refer to the famous Duel
Hole, the long par 3 7th at lower left, sight of the last duel in
the country (or something like that).

"Neighbor to 3 previous AOTDs (all from the same club) and a
few drivers from another." = neighbor of Olympic and a few
hundred yards from Lake Merced.

Supposed to have a great old locker room

"Is John Daly from around these parts?" = street near
southern border of course.

"A wanna-be PGA, USGA tournament site is just northwest of
here" = Harding Park

"there were a couple of real pistols in the locker room"
and "Not just old pistols... I'm pretty sure they are THE real
pistols used for said "fight to the finish" refer to the Duel.

Is known for it's privacy and no cameras rule.
Only "exposure" was a Curtis Cup almost 30 years ago.

"Mr. Tatum" = Sandy, member here

Doak recently did some restoration work here.

Is this this "uncategorizable" architect's best work?  On the
opoposite coast from most of his (best) stuff? = Tillie


#2 is Onwentsia, in Lake Forest, IL, designed by Robert Foulis.
Onwentsia hosted the 1906 U.S. Open.


other clues include:
"I like the name.  Might even be Native American"

"A major was held here"

Early U.S. Open was held here.

Last of many AOTDs from this 'zephyrous' area. = Windy City, Chicago

(correction) interview on GCA.com by writer on Foulis brothers

Alex Smith was victorious here. = 1906 Open winner

In "pond woods" suburban town of 2nd city = Lake Forest, outside of Chicago

wouldn't surprised me if it was rather flat, as is common
among courses in this, my kinda town. = Chicago

You can "Foulis" some of the time, but not all of the time

peter_p

Re:Aerial of the Day #448 (and #449) - 5 Dec 2003
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2003, 04:32:15 PM »
Onwentsia is translated from Iriquis ass "land, earth, ground", thanks to a google search

Jeff_Brauer

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Re:Aerial of the Day #448 (and #449) - 5 Dec 2003
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2003, 04:52:01 PM »
I recognized both immediately - SF as being the site of my second hole in one, and Onwentsia, from some minor remodel work I did there when working for K and N.

As I recall, Onwentsia had no automatic irrigation well into the 80's.  As I hear it, they had perfect bent fairways, until the irrigation came in.  The extra water soon led to poa annua.

The second fairway used to have a big rock in it.  Supposedly where the tribal chief was buried under that rock.  Also, this club is an outgrowth, but I don't think the same property, of the partial course that CB laid out on some senator's lawn in Lake Forest, prior even to Chicago Golf.

BTW, it is pretty flat!

I remember the look of that bunker short of 18 - the squarish bunker well short of the green.  In those days, Dick Nugent didn't think much of restoring that style, thinking it wasn't really that great anyway.
Jeff Brauer, ASGCA Director of Outreach

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