A little off the beaten path is no. 3 at Carolina GC (Ross) in Charlotte. From the back tees, 234 and 201, it may be slightly downhill, but from the two forward tees it's 164 and 121 uphill. I play it uphill. Is it a good hole? I think so, but then I'm not sure I'm qualified to judge. On the other hand, it's the toughest hole on the course in relation to par and nice to get out of the way early.