Way too much going on

[MCirba]

Archie,

Great insight on clearing the left of 12 out to the ridge line....the view would be indescribable, I'm thinking.

[Tim_Weiman]

Archie,


A couple great posts. Thanks!

[Peter Sayegh]

"There were so many little bunkers and mounds that needed hand work that the maintenance issues are myriad and ridiculously expensive. Moreover it is way too busy GCA wise! " Archie, post#6.

Archie,You clearly noticed "something" at the course in your original post. Did the distraction affect how you navigated the place? Candidly, how much was deciphered through a maintenance/cost lens?

GCA often applauds architects for attempts at distraction, though less seems more from what I've seen/read.

[Tom Yost]

Wolf Creek

[Rory Connaughton]

Mike T,


  Your bunker sand comment is interesting. My understanding is that there is a shortage of sorts due to an important player leaving the golf market (or closing) and heightened demand for sand in extractive industries. In sourcing sand for our project, similar spec but bright vs. muted the difference in cost per ton was staggering. The dirtier looking sand being more expensive.

[archie_struthers]

 


Hey Mike the first time I realized that 12 was so close to 15 green happened when caddying. It was a hot day and Bobby "K' was the other looper. He was about 45 and big at the time I was likely 19 or 20.


We get near the green on fifteen and I told him to give me his drivers to let him take the shortcut. He said no but take the green I'm going to run to the half way house and get us a couple beers....    Given he was the more experienced guy on this job I just said ok but you better hurry. Off he went up the hill thru the woods, all 230 plus pounds , mostly beer belly. 


The guys had some trouble around the green and Bobby still hasn't resurfaced.  I grab the four bags and hustle out to forecaddie on 16 taking the short cut thru the woods.  Now all the guys have hit their tee shots and thankfully no one missed one, all four in the fairway. So I move the bags to their respective balls waiting for Bobby to return. The guys get out there and still no "k" ...


Give everyone their yardage and they all hit asking me where is Bobby?  He must be in the hopper was all I could muster. There was a bathroom behind the tee on 15 green. One of the guys grabbed his bag and carried it and I took the other three, assuming my loop mate would show up on 17....nope, he didn't  and I really started getting worried on the green on 17.  18 is straight downhill so I took all the bags over the argument of the player who had helped me out, telling him that my boss Tommy Elder wouldn't be happy if he saw you carrying. The bags were light so we made it in without much trouble but still no Bobby "k"   yikes
 


Tommy noticed me carrying all the bags and gave me the "whassup" look.  Shrugging my shoulders I ran over to read the green if needed, hoping my buddy would miraculously reappear. NO such luck ...seemed he decided to slug down a lot of beer real quick and must have passed out on the way back down the hill. I escaped any trouble as I fibbed and said I thought he must have had a gastro issue  


And that's when I first realized the juxtaposition of the 12th halfway house to 15 green ...LOL

[MCirba]

Archie,

Now THAT is a classic looper story!!   

Not sure if that the tree clearing out to the ridge on 12 would have helped you to keep a better eye on him, but that may be another advantage. 

[Tim Martin]

Archie-Don’t leave us hanging man. Did you find out what happened to Bobby K?!

[archie_struthers]

 


yes Tim....he was fine quit drinking soon after and became the caddy master at LaGorce CC in Miami Beach ...super intelligent New England transplant and a great guy    all good in the end


However ....no more beer allowed while we were working , had to sneak it from then on !




p.s.    the over under on how many he drank  before being found was 10

[Tim Martin]

This is often the case in residential landscape architecture where ornamental trees, shrubs, and perennials dominate a property to the extent that you don’t know where to look. Any symmetry that could have been achieved by blending the natural attributes of the land with the right plantings is obscured with a sense of “way too much going on”. I get the same feeling when there are nests of like shaped bunkers on virtually every hole some of which have no bearing on playability. What is intended as an aesthetic accent has the exact opposite effect.