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David Harshbarger

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #125 on: July 16, 2021, 06:44:59 PM »
Dutchess CC 1893.  Unfortunately it is mostly NLE.  Hasn’t been plowed under…but heard they stripped the green sod for sale.
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Mark Mammel

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #126 on: July 16, 2021, 10:25:44 PM »
Town & Country Club in St Paul, first 9 in 1898.
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Greg Hohman

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #127 on: July 17, 2021, 11:01:40 PM »
I have pics of Schenley Park. The future upgrade of this site may enable me to post them..
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Richard DeMenna

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #128 on: February 03, 2022, 11:20:22 AM »
Time to jump start another thread....

Glen Arven Country Club (1892) Thomasville, GA My home course for 25 years. During my time at the club a call from your club pro could get you on the course. I speculate that is still the case.  The course is located about 40 miles north of Tallahassee.

NGLA (1908) Southampton, NY  My one and only time was in the early 1980's.  It was a 37-36 Par 73 back then. Championship Course measured 3227 IN and 3518 OUT. TOT 6745.

Links Golf Club (1919 RIP) North Hills, NY Caddied many a loop there and the perk of playing the course from 1966-1982.

Ridgeview Country Club (1921) Duluth, MN Unique course designed by William Watson containing 6 par 3's, 8 par 4's, and 4 par 5's.

Honorable Mention (I did not play these courses but performed maintenance work as a summer intern for a soil fumigation company in 1974)

Gulf Stream Golf Club (1924) Gulf Stream, FL

La Gorce Country Club (1927) Miami Beach, FL The course required a ranger to patrol the residential perimeter of the course. The ranger performed this on a motorcycle. On a side note, he knew the pro and his wife of the Links Golf Club. We had some interesting conversations on this topic.

Seminole Golf Club (1929) Juno Beach, FL  While performing work there I actually had a chance meeting with a member of the Links Golf Club.

Indian Creek Country Club (1930) Miami Beach, FL  Getting on this moated island was a chore in itself!


Rob Nydick

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #129 on: February 03, 2022, 11:46:46 AM »

La Gorce Country Club (1927) Miami Beach, FL The course required a ranger to patrol the residential perimeter of the course. The ranger performed this on a motorcycle. On a side note, he knew the pro and his wife of the Links Golf Club. We had some interesting conversations on this topic.

I'm wondering if anyone knows the extent of RTJ and Nicklaus' work at La Gorce?  What holes played today are attributed to these two, or the original design of the 1920's? 


To add to the topic, the oldest I've played is my home course, the 9-hole Saint Martins at the Philadelphia Cricket Club.  While there are many clubs mentioned in this thread that no longer play over their original course, the first hole at St. Martins has played across Hartwell Lane since 1895 and several holes we currently play date to 1898.  I believe these to be the oldest continuously played golf holes in Philadelphia, but I could be wrong.

Tim Gavrich

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #130 on: February 03, 2022, 01:44:17 PM »
Big fan of what few very old courses I've played. Palmetto (1892) is probably the oldest; also got to play Sharon CC (1894 or 1895 I believe) in the NW corner of CT a couple times in high school. Smallest greens I've ever seen. Fenwick dates to around then as well. I know Shennecossett uses 1898 on their logo.
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Terry Lavin

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Re:What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #131 on: February 03, 2022, 03:45:18 PM »
Chicago Golf Club, 1895.  Midlothian CC and Flossmoor CC, 1898.


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MCirba

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #132 on: February 04, 2022, 06:49:30 AM »
Rather than get into specifics regarding some of the courses, clubs, and dates mentioned so far, I will just say that every course below is dated from when golf first started at that site.   I see a number of others list the date of the club's origin and in some cases the club has moved at least once to new grounds during their history.   


Of the one's following, I'm still trying to verify the first one including having read the history book and doing extensive research.   The club dates golf being played there to 1886 based on the existence of a single map drawn many years later and the original was somehow lost while being copied for the centennial.   Newspaper accounts show the club actually being organized in 1896, not '86, but in the process of building a clubhouse which at least is suggestive of some growth and playing of the game there prior.  So, we'll leave it with an asterisk*.

Dorset Field Club (VT) - 1886*
Foxburg (PA) - 1887
Ardsley (NY) - 1895
Atlantic City (NJ) - 1897
Audubon Park (LA) - 1898
Baltusrol (NJ) - 1895
Beacon Hill (NJ) - 1899
Bedford Springs (PA) - 1895
Breakers (FL) - 1897
Camden (SC) - 1899
Castine (ME) - 1897
Charlevoix (MI) - 1896
Clifton Park (MD) - 1898
Deal (NJ) - 1898
Dyker Beach (NY) - 1895
Equinox (VT) - 1896
Essex County (MA) - 1893
Fenwick (CT) - 1894
Forest Park (NY) - 1896
Franklin Park (MA) - 1890
Garden City (NY) - 1897
Hendricks Field (NJ) - 1897
Highland Links (MA) - 1898
Hollywood (NJ) - 1899
Kebo Valley (ME) - 1894
Lawrenceville (NJ) - 1894
Maidstone (NY) - 1896
Mingo Springs (ME) - 1899
Misquamicut (RI) - 1895
Mt. Washington (NH) - 1895
Myopia Hunt (MA) - 1894
Newport (RI) - 1893
Northampton (PA) - 1899
Northeast Harbor (ME) - 1895
Northland (MN) - 1899
Ottawa Park (OH) - 1899
Palmetto (SC) - 1892
Philly Cricket (St. Martins) (PA) - 1895
Pinehurst #1 (NC) - 1897
Plainfield (NJ) - 1898
Plainfield West (NJ) - 1898
Samoset (ME) - 1898
Schenley Park (PA) - 1897
Shinnecock Hills (NY) - 1891
Taconic (MA) - 1898
The Country Club (MA) - 1893
Trenton (NJ) - 1898
Van Cortlandt (NY) - 1895
Wannamoisett (RI) - 1899
Wyoming Valley (PA) - 1896




I'm writing an IMO piece this winter on the first course (Dorset Field Club) listed above.  My plan is to share it with the club first so they can provide any additions or corrections but guessing it will get posted here by March.  Stay tuned.
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Matthew Rose

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #133 on: February 04, 2022, 09:04:32 AM »
Janesville (Wisconsin) Country Club - 1894



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Mike Worth

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #134 on: February 04, 2022, 09:32:26 AM »
Onteora - Tannersville NY. - 1887 *




* The First 100 US Golf Clubs list indicates 1887 which is when the club was founded. Golf actually began in 1891.
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Rick Lane

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #135 on: February 04, 2022, 09:43:43 AM »
Brooklawn in Fairfield CT was founded with 9 holes in 1895, expanded to 18 in 1911, Tillinghast reworked in 1930, all at the same site. There are a couple of remnants of the original 9 still visible, a tee area, and a green site.

Mark Molyneux

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #136 on: February 04, 2022, 10:19:14 AM »
The oldest public course that I've played would have to be Van Cortlandt Park (1895) in the Bronx. The clubhouse and locker room are worth the visit, and playing 18 is just icing on the cake. I drove there from Philly to play my 600th different golf course. I like to have something particularly memorable for milestone courses. I played in a New York foursome, which the pro explained to me was me, a Manhattan bus driver, an investment banker, and a guy from Dublin Ireland.


The oldest private course in the U.S. for me would have to be Merchantville in South Jessey, which is of uncertain vintage. Though the card and the merchandise proclaim "1892", it's probably more like 1895 for golf, as opposed to football, rugby or tennis.


The oldest course (non-U.S.) is indisputably the Old Course at St. Andrews.


The oldest course logo in the States might be Philadelphia Cricket Club at 1754 but that was for cricket and tennis, around what was to become the St. Martin's course in Chestnut Hill.  Cricket is the only place in the country that I know of that can claim three operating courses that were established in three different centuries (19th, 20th, and 21st). Playing all three is an interesting way to trace the evolution of course design.


A classic feature that I've seen and I'll mention might be "chocolate drops", like the ones running down the left side of the big par 5 that abuts the river at Tilly's Shawnee-on-Delaware. Those drops also appear at Pocono Manor, where the East course manages to defend every green with drops (back right & left, front right & left) on a course that involves exactly one sand bunker over 18 holes.

John Emerson

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #137 on: February 04, 2022, 06:26:21 PM »
Cherokee Golf course Louisville, KY 1895
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Craig Sweet

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #138 on: February 04, 2022, 08:37:58 PM »
Dorset Field Club

Andrew Harvie

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #139 on: February 04, 2022, 09:04:50 PM »
By America, do you mean "The Americas," or the United States of America? If you mean the former, Niagara on the Lake Golf Club is 1875. When I went to Manoir Richelieu, I wanted to stop at Le Club de Golf Orleans, which has three holes remaining from the original loop in 1873... that's old.
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Jerry Rossi

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #140 on: February 05, 2022, 01:41:09 AM »
Not counting Chicago Golf since they've moved and off the top of my head....


Tuscumbia CC in Green Lake, WI - 1896
Lake Zurich GC - 1895
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Richard Hetzel

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #141 on: February 05, 2022, 10:24:26 AM »
Foxburg CC (PA), 1887 if I remember correctly.
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David Ober

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #142 on: February 05, 2022, 09:47:44 PM »
Redlands CC
Del Monte
Victoria Club, 1903


Not sure of the exact dates of the first two and our course has had major changes since 1903.

Michael Underwood

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #143 on: February 06, 2022, 10:10:47 PM »
Gearhart Golf Links (Gearhart, OR) 1892
Kansas City Country Club (Mission Hills, KS) 1896

Lakewood Country Club (Denver, CO) 1908
Cherry Hills Country Club (Denver, CO) 1922

Doug Bolls

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #144 on: February 06, 2022, 11:24:55 PM »
Del Monte - CA - 1897
Waveland - IA - 1901
Normandie - MO - 1901

Steve Lang

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #145 on: February 07, 2022, 12:45:39 PM »
8) A PUBLIC --- OTTAWA PARK GOLF COURSE -- 1899




100 year anniversary this year of the first US Am Pub Links Championship which was held at OP, which we used to call the Country Club ... ;D
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Jim Hoak

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #146 on: February 10, 2022, 01:32:06 PM »
Old Del Monte Golf Course--near the Monterey, CA airport--claims to be the oldest "continuously operated" course west of the Mississippi.  Nine holes built in 1897--and the second nine added in 1902.

Will Thrasher

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #147 on: February 13, 2022, 12:59:30 PM »
Eastmoreland (Portland, OR) for me. Chandlar Egan laid out the course in 1917. Fun public track.
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V. Kmetz

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)? New
« Reply #148 on: February 13, 2022, 01:34:15 PM »
Greenwich (CT) is an 1892 Van Etten, remodeled by Raynor first in 1916...I don't know if any of the Van Etten holes are utilized

Knollwood (Elmsford NY) has an 1894 date and some remnant bones, though the versions I have played date more to the early 20th century

Brooklawn (Bridgeport CT) is 1895-96, but I don't have an idea of how much remains of that course in the versions I played of the 1980s and 90s

What do we consider the Shinnecock version  of the last 15 years...what date does it get?

Bedford Golf and Tennis (NY) is an 1896, but I think the current routing/holes are an Emmet creation in the 1920s

I've played the current St Andrews (Yonkers, NY) which has been on that terrible property since 1897 (it's 5th site) (and changed substantially over the years).

Apawamis (NY) had two other versions in different parts of Rye, but has been on its famous site since 1898...thsi is probably the oldest course I've played that's largely the same
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