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Thomas Dai

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Parkland golf is boring.
« on: February 04, 2022, 01:55:40 PM »
18 par-3’s, par-4’s and par-5’s often played between two lines of tall trees. Boring?
Thoughts.
Atb
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John Mayhugh

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Re: Parkland golf is boring.
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2022, 01:58:38 PM »
Thought number one: you are seriously stereotyping parkland golf.
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Garland Bayley

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Re: Parkland golf is boring.
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2022, 02:03:34 PM »
My impression of Saunton East was that if I missed left or right, I lost the ball. It felt just like playing some parkland courses where if I missed left or right in the trees, I lost the ball.

Golf is always fun. Frustration from losing golf balls diminishes the fun, and takes more time.

Sagebrush is the Saunton East of North America
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Tim Martin

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Re: Parkland golf is boring.
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2022, 02:20:24 PM »
Quote from: John Mayhugh on February 04, 2022, 01:58:38 PM
Thought number one: you are seriously stereotyping parkland golf.


Stereotyping and oversimplifying for sure. :o
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Dan_Callahan

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Re: Parkland golf is boring.
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2022, 02:31:47 PM »
It's not as much fun as links golf, in my opinion, but that doesn't make it boring. Just different.
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Don Mahaffey

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Re: Parkland golf is boring.
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2022, 02:40:21 PM »
Rivera is boring?
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Tim Martin

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Re: Parkland golf is boring.
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2022, 02:51:21 PM »
Quote from: Don Mahaffey on February 04, 2022, 02:40:21 PM
Rivera is boring?


Don-That’s just one great example. Too many to mention.
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Jeff Schley

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Re: Parkland golf is boring.
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2022, 03:21:10 PM »
Boy that is like picking on someone's brother expecting his family to just sit there and to let it happen!   >:(
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jeffwarne

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Re: Parkland golf is boring.
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2022, 04:15:00 PM »
When the patrons start snoring rather than roaring,I'll give you boring.
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Wade Whitehead

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Re: Parkland golf is boring.
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2022, 04:35:25 PM »
Quote from: Thomas Dai on February 04, 2022, 01:55:40 PM
18 par-3’s, par-4’s and par-5’s often played between two lines of tall trees. Boring? Thoughts. Atb
Thomas: What's the best parkland course you've ever played?

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John Foley

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Re: Parkland golf is boring.
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2022, 04:37:49 PM »
If the land moves it aint!
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Steve Lang

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Re: LINKS golf is boring.
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2022, 04:40:37 PM »
 8)  When one grows up on a parkland style course, you learn how to hit it straight... especially in the fall when the trees are losing their leaves.  GO errant and you just hope you find something better than what you lost... run out of balls, and you walk home... great incentive.


One might as well say that links golf with its randomness and uncertainty is ok, but it's just a built in excuse for bad luck..
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MCirba

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Re: Parkland golf is boring.
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2022, 04:42:38 PM »
Quote from: jeffwarne on February 04, 2022, 04:15:00 PM
When the patrons start snoring rather than roaring,I'll give you boring.


An early Contender for post of the year.
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jeffwarne

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Re: Parkland golf is boring.
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2022, 04:56:28 PM »
« Last Edit: February 04, 2022, 08:57:58 PM by jeffwarne »
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mike_malone

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Re: Parkland golf is boring.
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2022, 05:35:20 PM »
Tree removal has enabled parkland courses with great land to reveal their fun.
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Tim Martin

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Re: Parkland golf is boring.
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2022, 05:47:44 PM »
Quote from: MCirba on February 04, 2022, 04:42:38 PM
Quote from: jeffwarne on February 04, 2022, 04:15:00 PM
When the patrons start snoring rather than roaring,I'll give you boring.


An early Contender for post of the year.
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Ronald Montesano

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Re: Parkland golf is boring.
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2022, 06:59:03 PM »
What snoring, boaring, roaring Jeff Warne (see what I did there?) meant to say was

LINK ONE

LINK TWO

LINK THREE
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Andrew Harvie

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Re: Parkland golf is boring.
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2022, 08:21:31 PM »
This is a pretty disingenuous way to look at parkland golf, I'd think. There is of course a lot of bleh parkland golf, but a lot of good I've seen also.
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Matthew Rose

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Re: Parkland golf is boring.
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2022, 09:36:00 PM »
But I like shade  8)
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Sean_A

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Re: Parkland golf is boring.
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2022, 05:26:08 AM »
Quote from: Thomas Dai on February 04, 2022, 01:55:40 PM
18 par-3’s, par-4’s and par-5’s often played between two lines of tall trees. Boring?
Thoughts.
Atb

My thoughts are what are trying to stir up and why?

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jeffwarne

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Re: Parkland golf is boring.
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2022, 07:27:41 AM »
Quote from: Thomas Dai on February 04, 2022, 01:55:40 PM
18 par-3’s, par-4’s and par-5’s often played between two lines of tall trees. Boring?
Thoughts.
Atb


In many cases the golf would be more original and interesting if the course was laid out after and within the park, and adapted to that, rather than the other way around, with certain rules and accepted conventions on creating hole length,shaping, par, hazards, fairness,strategy, conditioning that many have the money and desire to satisfy.


But that's probably true of any genre of course.
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MCirba

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Re: Parkland golf is boring.
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2022, 08:50:57 AM »
Quote from: jeffwarne on February 05, 2022, 07:27:41 AM

In many cases the golf would be more original and interesting if the course was laid out after and within the park, and adapted to that, rather than the other way around, with certain rules and accepted conventions on creating hole length,shaping, par, hazards, fairness,strategy, conditioning that many have the money and desire to satisfy.


But that's probably true of any genre of course.


Jeff,


When Cobb's Creek was designed, the original architects (i.e. Wilson, Crump, Smith, et.al.) had to do exactly that as they were prohibited by the Philadelphia Fairmount Park Commission from removing any trees.


Accounts a few years after mentioned this restriction only having one negative impact and that was on the closing hole they intended to be their Magnum Opus.  They didn't know it at the time but with a little time and luck it still will be, 108 years later.
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Richard Hetzel

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Re: Parkland golf is boring.
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2022, 10:33:05 AM »
Quote from: mike_malone on February 04, 2022, 05:35:20 PM
Tree removal has enabled parkland courses with great land to reveal their fun.


Tree Removal being KEY here.
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Kalen Braley

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Re: Parkland golf is boring.
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2022, 11:24:54 AM »
Thomas Dai....aka the leader in the clubhouse for the 2022 version of Barney. 

Nice trolling, you got em jumping big time!  ;D
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Philippe Binette

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Re: Parkland golf is boring.
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2022, 11:43:37 AM »
I remember playing Downsfield in Scotland (inland) after playing 25 rounds of links golf and I went... this is easy...


Links golf is often a brain surgery where you have to think each shot... thinking about the flag location on a 430 yard hole...


Then you go inland and go, ok 150 to the hole, 8 iron...  done for the thinking
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