The Future of Engineers CC...Good News

[Steve Lapper]

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Interesting and semi-positive change of outcome for this vaunted Herbert Strong gem. Most of us thought once the club was sold to RXR for real estate development, the end of golf at this classic course was near and predetermined. It's great to know that won't be happening. The biggest remaining concern will be on the hired architect's ability to preserve its charm and architectural integrity.

[Blake Conant]

Curious if Nicklaus Design will have to reroute the course at all? The proposed condos will have to occupy some of the golf course, correct? Or did they buy enough land that the golf course can stay in tact?

[Tim Martin]

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The biggest remaining concern will be on the hired architect's ability to preserve its charm and architectural integrity.

Anyone that gets to see the course before the changes should make it happen. I am fascinated by the idea that Emmet was hired after Strong to soften some of the original features. It seems the opposite of what Travis was hired to do to Emmet’s Garden City Golf Club in an effort to make the course play more difficult.

[jeffwarne]

Good to have confirmation of what I heard a while back.
This past fall  I was told by staff that the only holes lost would be the dogleg par 5 10th(a pretty good hole with a cool green)  the dogleg par 4 11th(decent enough hole wth a tight greensite), and the additional "2 or 20" hole substitute between 10 and 11.
Not sure if they are all original as there is a substantial walk between 10 green and 11(hence the extra par 3 sandwiched in between)
I was told the new holes would be the area that is left of #13 fairway(now a maintenance area) and left of what is now# 4.(behind 2 green and 3 tee)


Would seem with just a little bit more digging(by digging I mean a 5 minute phone call), especially given GOLF's connection to Nicklaus Design via 8AM Golf, that some more details of the actual work/impact on original layout could've been provided.Even a call to the professional or Superintendant would've yielded more.
Instead we get multiple financial details and financial history with $ amounts better suited for Forbes rather than GOLF.com


But then the author goes on to mention Fishers Island as being "mere minutes away" from Engineers, in which case he might as well have listed about 20-30 other top courses, including Pine Valley, which while  south of  Philadelphia,  is 10 miles closer to Engineers than Fishers(to say nothing of not being on an island!), which tells me Google maps was too much trouble as well.

[John Mayhugh]

I've only played Engineers once, but it's hard to imagine how the Nicklaus guys will add holes that feel part of the same course. My fear is that everything else gets altered to fit a different style. Very happy to be wrong about that.

As for the article, what Jeff Warne said....

[Phil Carlucci]

But then the author goes on to mention Fishers Island as being "mere minutes away" from Engineers, in which case he might as well have listed about 20-30 other top courses, including Pine Valley, which while  south of  Philadelphia,  is 10 miles closer to Engineers than Fishers(to say nothing of not being on an island!), which tells me Google maps was too much trouble as well.

As long as everything on the Island is mere minutes away, I have to start getting out to Montauk Downs and Shelter Island more often.

[jeffwarne]

But then the author goes on to mention Fishers Island as being "mere minutes away" from Engineers, in which case he might as well have listed about 20-30 other top courses, including Pine Valley, which while  south of  Philadelphia,  is 10 miles closer to Engineers than Fishers(to say nothing of not being on an island!), which tells me Google maps was too much trouble as well.

As long as everything on the Island is mere minutes away, I have to start getting out to Montauk Downs and Shelter Island more often.

LOL-not to mention going to Connecticut first to get there.
Short of a plane, I can't imagine how long it would take to get from Engineers to Fishers-3-4 hours via boat? or two hours to Orient Point and a 30plus minute Charter from there?
Meanwhile, North Shore is mere yards away and pretty darn good

[Joe Bausch]

I had a blast at Engineers back in Sept/2017 with my buddy Matt Frey (thanks to RMD for making it happen!).  Here is how my eyes and camera saw the layout:


http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/albums/Engineers/index.html

[Michael Whitaker]

I had the good fortune of playing Engineers with Jason Blasberg during my year in Manhattan. 2011… can’t believe it’s been 10 years!!! Great course. It would be a shame to alter it, but money talks.


As Jeff says, North Shore is just next door. I’ve played it a couple of times. Once before Doak’s alteration, and once after. It holds special meaning for me as I broke my left fibula in 2016 on the 17th by taking a fall into the fronting bunker. 🤣 At 65 years old it was the first broken bone I’d ever had!!!


I had to use my sand wedge as a cane to attend a Broadway show that night. Ouch! 🥴