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Mark_Fine

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A.W. Tillinghast's design style/philosophies
« on: January 08, 2022, 07:08:47 PM »
I have been fortunate to work on a few Tillinghast courses and might soon get to work on a few more.  Many years ago I posted on GC Atlas short summaries on a number of the classic architects.  Each summary was the result of years of study of what I felt were some of the most important attributes of the various architect’s design styles/philosophies.  Below is one on Tillinghast.  I have found them useful when I want to update myself on a particular architect (rather than pulling out all my Tillinghast articles, books, and scorecards/notes,...).  And yes there are always exceptions and some will shoot holes but I hope others find this interesting if not useful. 

A. W. Tillinghast Overview

On Trees:

o      Tillinghast had a love for trees and incorporated them into his design schemes often.  He felt trees added beauty and could contribute to the distinction and charm of a golf hole.
o      He used trees to help mark the true line of play and felt outstanding specimens could be used advantageously in helping to “to chart the channel of the hole, so to speak”.   However, he believed that trees placed too close to the proper line of play, particularly in front of greens, can not be condoned. 
o      He also used trees for deception as well making the judgment of distances more difficult for the golfer. 
o      He recognized that trees offer comfort from the sun on a hot summer day particularly around teeing grounds.  His love for them might also have been a result of the fact that he liked to direct the efforts of his construction crew from the shade of a tree “with bottle in hand”. 
o      He understood that trees could restrict air movement around green and tee surfaces causing turf problems.  He often suggested that evergreens were an undesirable neighbor for putting surfaces.
o      As with all his design features, he believed none of them should be over used or over done.

On Variety:

o      Probably the most unique aspect of Tillinghast’s designs was that few, if any, of his courses looked the same.  He was a master of variety. 
o      He believed every hole should be unique and was a strong advocate of naming his golf holes for some novel characteristic that they possessed.   He felt every hole should be “worthy of a name”.
o      At the same time he made the famous quote that, “a round of golf should present eighteen inspirations, not necessarily eighteen thrills” as spectacular holes can be sadly overdone. 
o      Moreover, Tillinghast was a strong proponent of “beautiful” golf courses and ones that were a pleasure to play.   He felt there is a human tendency to admire things that are beautiful and golf courses should help placate this inner craving.  He also believed there was no reason that a course could not be beautiful and testing at the same time. 

On Greens:

o      Tillinghast believed that the greens were the faces of the golf course.  No matter how good the rest of the course was, he felt a course would never be noteworthy if its greens were not impressive.
o      Tillinghast’s greens were almost always tightly guarded as he believed a controlled shot to a well defended green was a sure test of a man’s game.
o      He felt nothing could supply a green more character than bold undulations.  However, those undulations needed to be receptive to the type of golf shot he expected to be played to that hole.
o      Many of his greens were raised in the back and often had one side tilted above the other.  This encouraged accurate approach play and made recovery shots around his greens all the more demanding.  They also helped insure good surface drainage. 
o      As wild as many of his greens were, Tillinghast had a sense of “fairness” in him.  He designed his greens to help a properly played shot finish close to the hole.  This may have been a result of his feeling that putting was given too much prominence in golf and its value too great compared to other shots.
o      He liked to think his greensites “approached” nature very closely and were in harmony with their natural surroundings.  Any holes that “had to be manufactured” needed to blend in and “hold their heads up in polite society”. 
o      Tillinghast had little tolerance for blind greens.  He believed visibility of the green from a properly placed tee or approach area was important.  He said the relationship between a properly placed shot to the fairway and the following one to the green is one of the most important considerations in the design of a golf course. 

On Bunkers:

o      Tillinghast had a flare for strong intimidating hazards that would dictate and direct the line of play.
o      He believed that shallow traps were of little value either as hazards or as impressive design features. 
o      What was most interesting about Tillinghast was that his bunker styles ranged all over the map from grass faced/flat bottomed to dramatic flashed sand faced designs.  His bunkers were almost always artistic creations and designed for the site at hand with most having a rugged less tended look. 
o      He heavily defended his greens with bunkers particularly on the sides and forward portions of the greensites. 
o      One of the attributes of a Tillinghast green is that if you miss one with your approach, you generally have to contend with sand vs. a chipping area.
o      As Tillinghast progressed in his career, he advocated the removal of bunkers at dozens of courses around the country including many of his own.  The driving force was apparently to reduce “unnecessary maintenance costs and make the game more fun and appealing to golfers”.  His famous cross bunkers were something he no longer approved of in his later years.

On Tees:

o      Tillinghast, like many of his contemporaries, believed tees should blend in with their surrounds.   He did not like built up tee boxes and felt they only added to maintenance headaches and took away from the beauty of the course.
o      He also believed that multiple tees should not be laid out in a straight line as it looks artificial and robs the hole of variety.  He felt there is great satisfaction in playing to the fairway or greensite from different angles. 
o      He believed his courses should have elasticity and tees should have room to be lengthened should the need arise in the future. 
o      When playing into fairways with pronounced slopes, he would set his tees such that the golf shot would play into the slope rather than with it. 

On Fairways:

o      Tillinghast advocated “beautiful” playing grounds and felt that straight lines were not often found in nature.  He was a strong advocate of contoured fairway lines and felt they added to the beauty as well as improved the playing characteristics of the golf hole. 
o      Most Tillinghast fairways are wide but they have a right side and a wrong side.  A carefully placed drive is rewarded with an easier shot to the green including the option of playing a run up shot. 
o      To reiterate, he was a strong advocate of risk/reward options.  He encouraged courageous play that awarded a very distant advantage if you successfully negotiated his carefully placed hazards.
o      His opinions on “rough” were similar to others of his time.  He believed rough should be a prominent feature on every golf course but should be maintained to extract a penalty “but not a loss of golf balls”. 
o      He despised parallel fairways and twisted his holes with doglegs and elbows and irregular shaped contours. 
o      He liked diagonal hazards and used a wide assortment of bunkers, mounds, rough, swales, etc. to challenge golfers and reward their successful efforts with a better angle of approach.   
o      He advocated clearing of brush and debris a considerable distance off the fairway under trees to allow the chance of a recovery shot.

On Water:

o      Tillinghast felt water was used too frequently as a hazard.  However, he realized that water on a course was highly popular and he would have to incorporate it into his designs.
o      He fully realized the need for water from a maintenance standpoint but felt ponds created for this purpose almost always looked artificial.   He felt with a little creativity, this problem could easily be corrected and/or not happen in the first place.
o      Tillinghast felt use of water as a diagonal hazard was the best as it gave players an option to play safe or to bite off as much as they could handle.   The “make the carry or get wet concept” was not his preferred design method.

On Approaches:

o      Tillinghast was very concerned about the design of approaches to greens and felt this was a much underrated aspect of good design.  He said the contours in the ground are of utmost importance and care must be taken in their construction to encourage the ground game.

Other thoughts:

o      Tillinghast was probably the most eccentric of the Philadelphia school of designers.  His courses seemed to reflect his mood at the time (or maybe they were just a function of the amount of alcohol he consumed during the construction period). 
o      Tillinghast realized that the best way to attack a golf hole was not always directly at the hole.  He designed his holes such that the ability of a golfer to reason with their mind was just as important as their physical ability with the golf club.
o      He loved the forced “three shot” hole as well as what he coined, the “double dog leg”.  Although most of the time he didn’t like to force a players hand, he did feel there were situations when the architect could dictate play.
o      When confronted with hills, Tillinghast always looked for the longest way up and the shortest way down in doing his routings.  It is hard to find a Tillinghast course that is not walkable. 
o      He was always concerned about maintenance, especially later on in his career.  He seemed to have some insight that the cost of golf would someday flare out of control and bring negative consequences to the game.
o      He believed length was important, but character and interest determine the true merit of a golf hole.
o      He built courses that were timeless and still capable of challenging the best players today.   
« Last Edit: January 09, 2022, 09:21:23 AM by Mark_Fine »

Mike Nuzzo

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Re: A.W. Tillinghast's design style/philosophies
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2022, 07:59:55 PM »
What Tillinghast courses have you worked on?
How did his words/work/style inform or impact specific instances from these courses?
How did your favorite hole or areas turn out? more or less like Tillie?
Where did you go against the notes you posted?
What bits of Tillie have you put on other projects?

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Anthony Gray

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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2022, 08:11:12 PM »



 Thanks for sharing Mark. Trolls will try to put you in your place but you have a lot to offer with this. It’s not like you sold some car insurance Friday and now you are designing golf courses. Share your knowledge and your experiences even if it’s not as great as prestigious as the big hat no cows guys.

Tom_Doak

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Re: A.W. Tillinghast's design style/philosophies
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2022, 08:31:28 PM »
Tillinghast's style sounds very much like mine, based on your summary.

Mark_Fine

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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2022, 09:32:34 AM »
Mike,

Lot of good questions that could take long to answer.  Let me try to at least touch on each of them.

I will start by saying Tillinghast has had an influence on me and I often think about many of his ideas and design inspirations particularly his varying green surrounds, tree use, green visibility and deception.  Early on, his use of trees might be where I applied much of what I learned and studied about Tillinghast the most. 

One of my first Tillie projects about 20 years ago was on course some here won’t have ever played called Fenway.  It is awesome.  Gil Hanse, who helped get me in the business was doing work there but was having a very difficult time with over planted trees.  Long story but Gil welcomed my help to put together a pretty compelling story for the Greens Chairman Steve Frankel and it helped jumpstart a tree management plan that lead to significant alterations to the course.  Steve was gracious enough to be a key reference for me early on for follow on renovation projects. 

One of my favorite Tillinghast projects was Suneagles in NJ.  Many weren’t even sure at the time if it was an original Tillie but we found an early bound copy of the club’s membership booklet as well as Tillie's original drawing for the course.  We actually donated the Suneagles book to the USGA library where it still resides today. Development at and around the course over the years had impacted the routing and holes were changed and sadly half the greens were rebuilt many years later.  Unfortunately the modified green/surrounds look nothing like what was once there.  Most of our work, due to budget constraints, was limited to edging out shrunken or grassed over original bunkers, restoring grassing lines, tree work, drainage work and expanding greens. The course was built around the same time as Somerset Hills and the original bunkers had a lot of similarities.  If you go on Google Earth you will see a really cool boomerang bunker on the 12th hole that we brought back to its full size and shape (you asked about one of my favorite features that turned out well in a project).   You can’t miss it.  I added a bunker like this in a Master Plan we did for Arcola CC but it never got implemented.  I wish the new ownership at Suneagles would follow through on a full restoration.  The course is very cool.

Another Tillie project was Irem Temple in PA which is also one many might not have heard of.  We designed and built a new short game area and full driving range for the club.  The short game area gives members some of the same kinds of shot options they will face on the course.  We did minimal work on the course itself outside of some tree work and grassing lines again due to budget constraints. Not all these clubs have funding like Baltusrol and Winged Foot but the members at each love their golf course. 

At a recent non Tillie project in PA we built several deep Tillinghast inspired green side bunkers to make for challenging recoveries.   I also had my shaper at another build irregular mounding on one of the par threes patterned after one of my favorite Tillinghast holes of all time, #2 at Somerset Hills.  We also used some of Tillie’s design concepts for a major 18 hole renovation at a club in IL that wanted a more classic look and feel returned to their golf course. 

Back in 2014 I was asked to redesign an island green that had gotten wiped out in a flood at Waynesboro CC near the Maryland border in PA.  The green was completely gone and the whole thing needed to be rebuilt so we were almost starting from scratch.  We raised the greensite up several feet and rebuilt/reinforced the stone retaining walls around it.  We removed trees opening up the area and restoring lost sight lines, made slight alterations to the surrounds particularly behind the green as well as how the stream split and circled around the green complex.  Again you can use Google Earth to see all this.  I sometimes use a sand box to design/shape greens that I show my shaper and I did that for this one.  My inspiration for the green/contours was a Tillinghast green.  The green is still there and has survived numerous major floods since. 

As far as where did I go against my notes; not sure.  We never got to do it at Suneagles but I was all for adding back some of his cross hazards (Tillie later in his career advocated removing many of these) so that might be one example where we compromised. 

Tom,
You do seem to follow much of what Tillie did especially your variety.  Were/are you on the same page with him as this thoughts changed about the over importance in putting?  Tillie sure didn’t show that early on in much of what he built (Winged Foot West’s greens for example are wild and clearly the focal point of that design).   
« Last Edit: January 09, 2022, 10:36:36 AM by Mark_Fine »

Mark Molyneux

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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2022, 11:01:29 AM »
Mark!


Thank you for your succinct summary of Tillie's design tendencies. I want to place your notes inside the cover of my copy of The Course Beautiful. For the better part of 50 years AWT has been my favorite Philly School / Golden Age designer. I began where he began... at Shawnee.


I've played at Suneagles and Irem Temple and maybe a couple dozen other Tillinghast designs. What you say about walkability, elasticity and variability certainly rings true. On your point about limited water hazards/ponds, I agree. He did seem to make fairly common use of island greens but his water was more like shallow moats, e.g. the moat hole at Abington Club, which survived the transition from the original Old York Road CC, the moat hole at Galen Hall & the moat hole that concludes a brilliant, short par 5 at Old Orchard. The water at places like Shawnee and Bedford is simply part of nature and its preservation reflects Tillie's respect for nature and his desire to simply "fold in" existing elements. The Binniekill wasn't going away so naturally, it became an aspect of a pair of beautiful par 3s.


You have motivated me to go check on "Waynesboro CC". I've played a fair bit in the Waynesboro, PA area but I was unaware of the pedigree of that 1928 club.


I love your observations about trees on his courses and his singular respect for "specimen trees". Your suggestion that he may have sought out the occasional tree to rest beneath, while "fortifying himself" brought to mind a comment made by Brad Klein in a discussion about Donald Ross' prolific design practice. He said that one distinct competitive advantage that Ross probably enjoyed was that he was one of the few architects among his contemporaries, who was sober by early afternoon.


Somebody once said that AWT's personal game was strong and it involved a natural, well-controlled fade, so where boundaries were set on his courses, it was more often marked on the left sides of those golf holes to allow him to fade the shot away from trouble.

Mark_Fine

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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2022, 11:42:16 AM »
Mark,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and insight.  I took Rick Woelfel around Suneagles years ago and he raved about it as he should.  So many cool features there and so many that still could be brought back.


Just so you know Wanyesboro is not a Tillie but was an example as Mike requested where we used bits from Tillie in other projects.  If you played the hole you would see what I mean. Suneagles incidentally also had a somewhat similar par three hole partially surrounded by water. 


Glad you enjoyed the summary.

Jeff_Brauer

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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2022, 10:10:38 AM »
Those who know more can show me where I am wrong, but I have the impression that Tillie's variety was as much a factor of not controlling his own construction crews, at least outside his home base in the NE.  I mean, the bunkering at SFGC has to be Bell, and a year later, he is in MN building some pretty vanilla bunkers.  Conceptually, I can't believe he would purposely go back after getting that great look at SF.
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Tom_Doak

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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2022, 11:48:00 AM »
Those who know more can show me where I am wrong, but I have the impression that Tillie's variety was as much a factor of not controlling his own construction crews, at least outside his home base in the NE.  I mean, the bunkering at SFGC has to be Bell, and a year later, he is in MN building some pretty vanilla bunkers.  Conceptually, I can't believe he would purposely go back after getting that great look at SF.


Well, both of those courses are now examples of MY construction crews' work, but as to your original point . . .


Actually, I believe Bell's work at SFGC was done in the late twenties, so it was AFTER Rochester was finished.  But, it's hard to say that Tillinghast wanted to do more of that look, since he never did it anywhere else on his future projects.  And to be fair, that look only works well on a sandy site, and I don't know how many of those Tillie had, especially late in his career.

Jeff_Brauer

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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2022, 12:13:53 PM »
TD, I was thinking about Golden Valley, which I think was the year after he was at SFGC.
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Mike Nuzzo

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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2022, 02:37:21 PM »
Nice to see a bunker used on 2 holes - the boomerang on 11 & 12 you referenced.
It used to cradle the 12th green, before someone moved the green and rebuilt the left bunker.
Did you consider putting them back together?
I was unable to see any modern changes to the bunker from above.
Good luck
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Mark_Fine

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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2022, 03:29:27 PM »
Jeff,
Doubt we will ever know for sure about all of the variety in Tillinghast designs but it wouldn't be hard to argue that some of it comes from the different crews he worked with to build his golf courses.  Obviously you know that is one of the reasons there is so much variety in some Ross courses as there are many Ross never saw as they were built or when finished.


I don’t have all my project files with me and it has been a long time but I believe the construction crew that built Cherry Hills for Flynn had just completed a course for Tillinghast.  There is great documentation on Cherry Hills that we found but that Tillie crew might explain a few of the things got built out there and also why the quality was so good. 


I recall playing a “restored” Flynn course in the Chicago area (it has subsequently been “restored” again)  ::)  When we got to I think it was the 8th hole the bunker style changed.  I asked the architect what happened and he said something a long the lines, “Yes we ended up finishing this hole and the next with a Nicklaus crew and they couldn’t stop doing Nicklaus.”  :(


I have had jobs where I have had to deal with a change in shapers mid stream in the project and it is not easy.  They are all artists and some tend to favor their way/look and style of doing things and it is hard to get them to do different from that.  I am not saying they can’t but they have tendencies. 


Mike,
Yes that boomerang bunker at Suneagles is very cool.  We edged it out at the time as far and as close as we could to that rebuilt green but the master plan was always to rebuilt the entire green and reconnect it up against that bunker.  Not sure we will get that chance as I just talked to one of the former GMs there who is a close friend and it is unclear what the new owner's intentions are.  We will see. 


You may or may not remember but we almost worked together on a Plummer project in Texas called Denton CC.  You had sent me back in 2006  “for my eyes only” your plans/vision for Wolf Point.  Lucky you to get a project like that.  Well done!  We also talked about Arcola at that time.  That plan I did for Arcola I think is one of my best renovation plans ever that never got implemented.  I know we all have stories like that but that redesign would have been special.  Long story but I remember talking to Gil about it.  He still has my original rendering.  That one would have included a boomerang bunker shared on two holes just like Suneagles.