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Ronald Montesano

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The Land Didn't Speak To Me
« on: December 21, 2021, 02:43:01 PM »
I have no problem with this phrasing. I don't understand how some find it to be pretentious. I don't comprehend how it can be seen as condescending.


If more architects over the years (need to feed their families notwithstanding) had been able to say this, we might have fewer forgettable courses.
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Kyle Harris

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Re: The Land Didn't Speak To Me
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2021, 04:00:11 PM »
https://youtu.be/deDlab6vFgg


This Discussion Group sometimes.
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Constantly blamed by 8-handicaps for their 7 missed 12-footers each round.

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Mike_Young

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Re: The Land Didn't Speak To Me
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2021, 04:01:24 PM »
Is it safe to assume that you are talking of golf courses designed and built for golf?  So many of our forgettable golf courses were built as lost leaders for housing or casinos or resorts.  JMO
"just standing on a corner in Winslow Arizona"

Tom_Doak

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Re: The Land Didn't Speak To Me
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2021, 06:18:34 PM »
Ronald:


I guess I misspoke, because it wasn't really the land that bothered me.  It was the fact that the Fazio team had shoved it to and fro to build their course, and you would have to undo a lot of that to change it.  I much prefer a project where I can leave a lot of the ground untouched, but that isn't really possible once someone else has built something on it, especially on a course built in the 1990's.

Ronald Montesano

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Re: The Land Didn't Speak To Me
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2021, 01:19:24 PM »
Kyle's scene was funny, but not sure what it had to do with this thread. I must be dull like a used saw blade.

Mike makes a good, collateral point. If "the" thing is non-golf and golf is ancillary, the land may remain mute.

Tom may (or may not) have misspoken, but it is the words that were questioned, that matter to me. The land doesn't have to speak to an architect. There might be a wonderful Spanish-language textbook or methodology, but if it doesn't speak to me, it won't be in my classroom.

It alarms me a bit that people question someone's own words on this DG. This wasn't a misquote, or an errant citation.
Coming in 2024
~Elmira Country Club
~Soaring Eagles
~Bonavista
~Indian Hills
~Maybe some more!!

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