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My best start ever went 3,4,2,3,4. My best finish was 3,3,3. Once in a team event I finished 2,2.
Wasn’t it the Warren Course st Notre Dame that opened with no par assigned to any of the holes? And very quickly they brought C&C back to change that because people couldn’t deal.
All that said, Matthew’s suggestion of leaving Par off the scorecard is one I’ve always liked… But leaving the index off rules out Matchplay as well. How about having a Par and an Index but leaving out the yardage?
Quote from: Dan_Callahan on December 21, 2021, 08:00:05 AMWasn’t it the Warren Course st Notre Dame that opened with no par assigned to any of the holes? And very quickly they brought C&C back to change that because people couldn’t deal. Did they really need bring the architects back to tell them which holes were par 3s, 4s, and 5s? I'm pretty sure if you gave most of us here a scorecard with no par assigned, any one of us could fill it out in about 90 seconds.
Quote from: Ally Mcintosh on December 21, 2021, 03:42:27 AMAll that said, Matthew’s suggestion of leaving Par off the scorecard is one I’ve always liked… But leaving the index off rules out Matchplay as well. How about having a Par and an Index but leaving out the yardage?Ally, I think it's interesting to leave the index off at a private course - members will know the course more intimately, and it adds in an element of strategy about where they take their shots. Not sure I would do it at most places, but maybe one or two - particularly if there's no par.
Quote from: Ken Moum on December 21, 2021, 08:58:53 AMQuote from: Duncan Cheslett on December 21, 2021, 03:14:52 AMLevel 4s is basically another name par for score keeping. CiaoOf course. I was just pointing out that basing Stableford scoring on level fours and allocating strokes purely based on yardage would be a reasonable way to play Stableford Elie already has 16 par fours ranging from ~250 to over 450, calling the other two par fours wouldn't be that much of a stretch. And I have long believed that yardage is a more logical way to allocate strokes than the way most courses do it. With adjustments to avoid 1, 9, 10 and 18.
Quote from: Duncan Cheslett on December 21, 2021, 03:14:52 AMLevel 4s is basically another name par for score keeping. CiaoOf course. I was just pointing out that basing Stableford scoring on level fours and allocating strokes purely based on yardage would be a reasonable way to play Stableford Elie already has 16 par fours ranging from ~250 to over 450, calling the other two par fours wouldn't be that much of a stretch. And I have long believed that yardage is a more logical way to allocate strokes than the way most courses do it. With adjustments to avoid 1, 9, 10 and 18.
Level 4s is basically another name par for score keeping. Ciao
In a head to head match?If you're giving me 10 shots, I will absolutely back load them.
It eliminates the need for a scorecard.
Par dictates how you play some holes. The Road Hole as a 5 you may lay up, as a 4 you will challenge the bunker and the road.
So if I took my 10 shots on #'s 9-18 you figure you'd be 5 or 6 up after 8 and only lose a couple of those next 7 holes?I don't think works out that way but only one real way to test it...lets go!
... I played with a nut once and he kept score in his head as it related to bogey. If you ask him how he played he would say I was 2 under bogey or 3 over Bogey. He loved the game.
In short, I believe the intelligent golfer plays to reduce the number of strokes, not to achieve a predetermined score. Unfortunately there are many golfers who prefer not to think strategically and the concept of par for them exacerbates their shortcomings.