[John Kavanaugh]

Recently I heard a new course described as the Tobacco Road of Nebraska. What are other examples from each state.


Five of my favs:


Fossil Trace is the Tobacco Road of Colorado.
Mystic Dunes is the Tobacco Road of Florida.
Dismal White is the Tobacco Road of Nebraska.
Ballyhack is the Tobacco Road of Virginia.
Spanish Bay is the Tobacco Road of California.

[Mike_Trenham]

Musgrove Mill is the Tobacco Road of South Carolina


Streamsong Black is the Tobbaco Road of Florida

[John Kavanaugh]

Musgrove Mill is the Tobacco Road of South Carolina


Streamsong Black is the Tobbaco Road of Florida

Excellent choices. I stand corrected on Florida. I missed that one.

[Jeff_Brauer]

It wouldn't be too unfair to call the Quarry the TR of Minnesota.  I did take the powers to be to TR and Worldwoods in FL to give them an idea of what the Quarry might look like if built.  They agreed it should look like those courses, but play a bit easier.

[Chris Roselle]

Union League National is the Tobacco Road of New Jersey

[Dan_Callahan]

Spanish Bay is the Tobacco Road of California.

That is a bizarre comparison. The two courses are nothing alike.

[John Kavanaugh]

Spanish Bay is the Tobacco Road of California.

That is a bizarre comparison. The two courses are nothing alike.

How not? I have had people I respect tell me not to play either course when in the area.

[Dan_Callahan]

At Tobacco Road, you will see some things you've never seen before. You might hate it. Some people do. But it is in my top 5 favorite public courses in the US.


Spanish Bay ... ugh. You could plop down Spanish Bay anywhere in New England and it would look like just another average course. And on that site, with the holes that go down to the ocean, it sure seems to me like a missed opportunity. I would not pay to play it again.

[Kalen Braley]

I would think Chambers Bay to be the TR of Washington State.  Certainly a few similarities..

[John Kavanaugh]

At Tobacco Road, you will see some things you've never seen before. You might hate it. Some people do. But it is in my top 5 favorite public courses in the US.


Spanish Bay ... ugh. You could plop down Spanish Bay anywhere in New England and it would look like just another average course. And on that site, with the holes that go down to the ocean, it sure seems to me like a missed opportunity. I would not pay to play it again.

I've never played in New England.

[Brad Tufts]

TR of New England.... Widow's Walk?


I've only played it once maybe 20 years ago, and I doubt I'd go back.

[Ronald Montesano]

There is some disingenuousness to this thread. The Tobacco Road of ... means different things to different people. I would play TR every time I visit the sandhills, and would have no problem calling it my home course, on an everyday basis.


Others would not

[John Kavanaugh]

There is some disingenuousness to this thread. The Tobacco Road of ... means different things to different people. I would play TR every time I visit the sandhills, and would have no problem calling it my home course, on an everyday basis.


Others would not

It's called interesting. Don't you and superbud KLynch have any mystery in your relationship?


For instance, I don't believe you when you say you would have no problem with TR being your home course on an everyday basis. But at least it is an interesting take. No way in hell would any serious golfer who loves to walk choose TR over the other options in the area to play day after day after day.

[Dan_Callahan]

For instance, I don't believe you when you say you would have no problem with TR being your home course on an everyday basis. But at least it is an interesting take. No way in hell would any serious golfer who loves to walk choose TR over the other options in the area to play day after day after day.

TR isn't a bad walk at all.

[John Kavanaugh]

I walked TR. If I recall there is a backtrack on the last par 3 that is inexcusable. I refuse to spend the rest of my life hitting a tee shot for the next hole before the previous hole has been completed. I dislike St. Louis CC for the exact same reason.

[Brian Finn]

TR isn't a bad walk at all.

Tobacco Road is not necessarily a difficult walk, but it IS a bad walk.  Semantics, I know.

I am a fan of the course, but could never play there more than a couple of times per year. 

[Dan_Callahan]

The backtrack from 17 green to 18 tee? It's an awkward logjam in the routing, but 17 is less than 150 yards. It's not that onerous a walk. And frankly, 17 green is incredibly wide. So if you exit the green on the right side, it is a very, very short walk to 18 tee.

[Buck Wolter]

Honey Creek is the Tobacco Road of Iowa

[Paul Jones]

Bayou DeSiard is the Tobacco Road of Louisiana

[MCirba]

I'd say that Mystic Rock at Nemacolin Woodlands is the TR of Pennsylvania, but that would be giving it far too much credit.   


Love Pete Dye but some courses simply should never have been built.

Not sure who loves it but it somehow manages to get to the top of the "Courses you can play" in PA listings so poor taste is not a rare quality.

[Edward Glidewell]

I wouldn't have ever thought of grouping Musgrove Mill and Tobacco Road together. I don't see it.

[Eric Smith]

Already dubbed the Pine Valley of the Sequatchie Valley, Sweetens Cove has to be the Tobacco Road of Tennessee, at least here in Kavbone  World.

[Michael Moore]

Pinehurst #4 is the Tobacco Road of North Carolina.

[Peter Sayegh]

Pinehurst #4 is the Tobacco Road of North Carolina.

Brilliant.
Is Tobacco Road the Stone Harbor of NC?

[Ronald Montesano]

Superbud is what I call my crop of marijuana that will soon come to market. KLynch is actually spelled Clinch, but that's an adventure for another time.

John of the thousand veils, you exfoliate excommunicate exacerbate escalate like no other.

At no point did I say that I would choose any course over another.

At no point did I ever call myself a serious golfer.

At no point can anyone speak for other golfers, serious or not, as to what they would hypothetically choose.

I don't think that you understand that this is not a poker game. You need to show your hand when you begin a thread. You don't like Tobacco Road. That should be in your opening statement, if not your thread title.

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