Jeff,
I have not played that many modern courses and I am certainly not a long hitter, but I can think of a few holes that might speak to what you are discussing:
Blackwolf Run River 8
Streamsong Red 7
Pacific Dunes 12
Friar's Head 8
Bandon Trails 3 and 16
Streamsong Blue 17 probably is too long to qualify but probably meets the criterion except from the back tees.
Ira
Thanks for all the thoughtful responses.-and the pictures Ian
I've played all the holes Ira listed above except BR River, but really only know 12 at BD and 7 at FH(I think you meant 7)
well enough to opine.
Both holes Ira mentions and I know well are excellent par 5's with interesting greensites, FH's 7 being a particular cool green.
But neither hole strikes fear into te second shot for a decent player, or even a ton of thought.
The last time I played FH 7, after watching my son hit a second shot 3 wood right to left shot into a right pin to about 10 feet, I whipped a left to right driver off the deck onto the green to a semi right pin on the top plateau, with the only repercussion to be in the huge bunker on the right if I flared it out-a slight miss right would kick left onto the green, a good faded shot would be really good, and a miss left would set up a good angle.
It's the kind've shot I would try as often in a casual game as I would down the stretch in a stroke play event.
A thrill to execute on such cool ground, but not much fear, and clearly doable with two different shot shapes and trajectories.
12 at PD is another cool hole, but again, the second shot I'm trying to get as close to the green(or on) as conditions allow, and not really thinking of a thoughtful layup unless I just can't reach, even then I'm just trying to get as close as I can.
In both cases, there's not the same amount of fear that I'll have no shot at birdie if I don't execute a great second shot, either as a layup dictated by pin, or going for it.
On both 7 and 15 at HCC, nearly every time I hit a good drive the green is potentially in reach(I'm 58 and not a bomber)but it takes a heck of a shot to get on the green, but more importantly, if one gets up near the green and the shot doesn't come off perfectly, birdie, or even par could become really dicey.
I have a couple of theories on why you wouldn't see such holes today
Both holes also utilize blindness, not always a great thing at a resort, with players having to walk up to check for clearance.
Liability could be an issue.
Secondly, the modern ball goes far, and not many architects are going to build a 470 par 5, and nowadays(and when they DO, there is another "pro" tee way back at least 520 OR the hole might be changed to par 4 at which point someone would suggest it is unfair and shorter tees would go in and the unique challenges such holes present would eventually be neutered by the fair police.
Third, I generally hate OB, but this is such a cool use of it on 15, but usually, for liability reasons, a new build would shy away from property lines being 10 feet from green edge(you could always have a "fake" OB stake or two
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Finally, There is the fear that the owner or players won't accept such quirk in a new build, OR in the case of some new builds, the property is so good, it's difficult to fathom having OB that tight or some other odd feature on such good ground.