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Ira Fishman

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Have you ever stopped mid-round because the course was awful?
« on: September 30, 2021, 06:42:46 PM »
Just because a course was just awful? I have done so only once many years ago at the Tradition at Stonehouse. The fact that it took 2:45 to play the front may have contributed to the decision.


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Dan_Callahan

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Re: Have you ever stopped mid-round
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2021, 07:00:48 PM »
I’ve only walked off a course twice for non-weather related reasons. Once was because I had a collapsed lung and after 4 holes decided I should go to the ER. The second time was because the pace of play was brutal and the ranger refused to tell the group ahead of us to speed up because one of them was a judge. Fair enough.


I would never abandon a course just because I didn’t like it, because you never know if the next hole might be worth it.

Joe_Tucholski

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Re: Have you ever stopped mid-round
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2021, 11:36:04 PM »
I can only remember walking off one course in my life.


I walked off Spyglass after 6 holes to go surprise my high school girlfriend at her track meet...kids can be dumb.






Once was because I had a collapsed lung and after 4 holes decided I should go to the ER.


My best round at my club in Ohio was 3 days before I was admitted due to emboli in the lungs.  I had tingling lips and fingers and a headache like the whole back nine and remember thinking something was seriously wrong and that I needed to stop on the uphill walk from 16 to 17 but kept going because I was playing so well.  I let the other guys hit first as I caught my breath.

John Crowley

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Re: Have you ever stopped mid-round
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2021, 12:05:48 AM »
Just because a course was just awful? I have done so only once many years ago at the Tradition at Stonehouse. The fact that it took 2:45 to play the front may have contributed to the decision.


Ira
Yes, about 12-15 years ago walked off that  _____ National Golf Club in Rancho Palos Verdes after nine holes. Spectacular views of the Pacific Ocean. Awful golf course.
« Last Edit: October 01, 2021, 09:26:07 AM by John Crowley »

Jay Mickle

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Re: Have you ever stopped mid-round
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2021, 07:26:28 AM »
I walk off my home courses regularly whenever at the halfway point it seems that we are headed towards a round of close to five hours.  ???
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Erik J. Barzeski

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Re: Have you ever stopped mid-round
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2021, 07:59:48 AM »
I walk off my home courses regularly whenever at the halfway point it seems that we are headed towards a round of close to five hours.  ???
Ditto. If I make the turn in 80 minutes and run into three or four groups on the 10th I’m pretty likely to just go home.
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John Kavanaugh

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Re: Have you ever stopped mid-round
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2021, 09:17:39 AM »
If I pull into the parking lot and see one of two cars I go straight to the bar. I will not give watch watching wannabes the satisfaction of blaming me for their miserable lives.

Jason Thurman

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Re: Have you ever stopped mid-round
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2021, 09:23:38 AM »

Just because a course was just awful?

Very close to meeting this criteria on two occasions:

First was at Broadmoor Golf Links in NC. I don't remember it being an AWFUL golf course, really. Nice enough setting and perfectly ok design as I recall. But man, talk about soft and slow. Just a total slog, and since we were stopping on the road before heading home from a vacation, we just called it a day after 9 holes and got the hell out.

In retrospect, maybe a bad call. Their website claims they're "one of the top golf courses in Fletcher, NC... designed by noted golf course architect Karl Litten – recognized alongside Nicklaus, Palmer, and Fazio by the PGA as one of golf’s fab four designers." Our loss, I guess.

The second was at Eagle Ridge in Yatesville, KY, this wild-ass mountaintop course that had received a lot of local hype. My mother and I road tripped out for 36, combining it with Hidden Cove down the road. We both loved Hidden Cove. And I mean, Eagle Ridge really is one-of-a-kind and it definitely appeals to a lot of people. We don't agree with those people, though. Mommy tapped out on 6 with a "This is bullshit. I'll just ride." I kicked into speed-golf mode and zipped around the rest of the course in about 50 minutes. The damn thing was, I played really well once the back nine started. Nearly aced 12 and then drove the green at 13, the famous and completely stupid drop-shot par 4. Probably my least favorite birdie ever made. Definitely my least favorite back-to-back birdies. The course was completely playable as long as you went hybrid-wedge on every par 4, and never missed by more than about 10 yards in the process. Which is easier when you're hitting a shot every 45 seconds or so and can settle into a real rhythm.
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Ian Mackenzie

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Re: Have you ever stopped mid-round
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2021, 10:04:11 AM »
On June 25, 1994, a buddy and I were playing Fazio-designed Treetops Resort in northern Michigan.
We were on the 8th tee box with two other groups on the tee waiting on a downhill par 3 and I noticed that we had teed off 2:30 hours earlier.

We walked off in disgust.

Funny thing, i have in my desk a raincheck (that I am holding right now) from that day signed by "Bill D" saying a free replay is due to me "Good anytime".

Love to see the look on their faces if I walked in next summer, 28 years later, and asked for that rain check...;-) ;D ;D
« Last Edit: October 01, 2021, 01:15:21 PM by Ian Mackenzie »

John Kavanaugh

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Re: Have you ever stopped mid-round
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2021, 10:08:21 AM »
I quit more than once because it was raining. If the forecast is for slow play why even show up?


note: This thread was supposed to be about awful golf courses.

Jeff_Brauer

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Re: Have you ever stopped mid-round
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2021, 10:12:21 AM »
First, as I age and also whenever I am playing couples golf with my wife, I find we are often quite content to quit after 12-14 holes, so it is becoming more common for me.  What is surprising is just how strong the pull to play 18 holes is due to tradition. When I was younger, and actually amazed that someone past 60 something could still enjoy golf, I had a senior golfer take me aside to describe his typical golf round.  "At 55, I still played 18, at 65, I played 9 to 12 holes, at 70, I played 9 holes, at 75, 6 holes.  At 80, I play three holes, go home, make a drink, finish it and nap until dinner....."


As to quitting for boredom/anger/apathy/bad course, I can recall a few.


We were vacationing in Hot Springs, AK many years ago, and decided to play golf, and decided to walk for exercise, even though it was very hilly and over 100 degrees.  The course was nothing special, to keep this on topic.  I remember telling the girl behind the counter we were walking and she said, "You folks crazy!"  She was right.


In Florida 7 years back I saw the former Jackie Gleason site Turnberry open for about 12 bucks on GolfNow and figured I would play it as a former tour course, remembering Jack's 5 straight chip ins on the final five holes.  Only problem was, the course was in such bad shape and nothing really special we quit at 13, so I never had the chance to duplicate that feat.


I hate to say this, because overall I like the idea of the course, but it is just too hard for me, but I have quit Stoneridge east of St Paul (a Bobby Weed design) at 14(?) twice because it was a) getting dark, b) beating me up, and c) unfortunately, the routing got close to the clubhouse there, before playing away and then back from 15-18.  I wasn't having fun, and it was clearly my best chance at shortcutting the round, so I turned left other than right to head back in. 


Until that first time, I had never concerned myself with "giving an out" in the routing, and still think maybe the proper response ought to be designing an easier course.
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Tommy Williamsen

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Re: Have you ever stopped mid-round
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2021, 11:41:53 AM »
When I was a teenager I walked off the course in disgust. It was a little junior club tournament. I turned in an "NC"--no card. The pro, who was like a second father chewed me out, "Don't you ever walk off a course again, NC means no courage."
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MCirba

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Re: Have you ever stopped mid-round
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2021, 12:04:16 PM »
About 25 years ago I decided to play golf with a co-worker who had started playing the game recently so we met at Walnut Lane in Philadelphia on a beautiful fall day.

On the par three 13th tee I realized we had been there for over 5 hours due to slow play overall.   My playing partner probably had hit well over 100 shots and lost about 15 balls by that time so with all apologies I hiked back to my car.



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Ian Mackenzie

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Re: Have you ever stopped mid-round
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2021, 12:56:18 PM »
I quit more than once because it was raining. If the forecast is for slow play why even show up?


note: This thread was supposed to be about awful golf courses.


The only certain "slow play forecast" that I know of would be behind you, JK...;-)


And yes, if a course is facilitating a 3 hour pace on 9 holes, then it is indeed awful.


Otherwise, when the "Waze of Pace of Play" is invented, I will absolutely download it.
Until then, back to your bridge...;-)
« Last Edit: October 01, 2021, 01:42:02 PM by Ian Mackenzie »

Jeff Schley

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Re: Have you ever stopped mid-round
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2021, 01:27:16 PM »
Just because a course was just awful? I have done so only once many years ago at the Tradition at Stonehouse. The fact that it took 2:45 to play the front may have contributed to the decision.


Ira
Yes, about 12-15 years ago walked off that  _____ National Golf Club in Rancho Palos Verdes after nine holes. Spectacular views of the Pacific Ocean. Awful golf course.
I have never walked off a course because it was bad, I grew up playing bad courses probably as a norm anyway.  I did have a good friend of mine that sparked my memory from John's post about TNGC LA. It was the former Ocean Trails and used to get on when I was coaching college with some other coaches/staff. One of administrators loved golf, but would spray the ball all over. He walked off the course after 9 and said, "this course is just too hard for me." Those that played it recall that while yes the ocean was viewed on all the holes, it was very tight indeed with barranca bordering both sides of almost each hole. Also I think they only had 15 holes as one fell into the ocean famously.
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Stewart Abramson

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Re: Have you ever stopped mid-round
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2021, 01:58:15 PM »

I hate to say this, because overall I like the idea of the course, but it is just too hard for me, but I have quit Stoneridge east of St Paul (a Bobby Weed design) at 14(?) twice because it was a) getting dark, b) beating me up, and c) unfortunately, the routing got close to the clubhouse there, before playing away and then back from 15-18.  I wasn't having fun, and it was clearly my best chance at shortcutting the round, so I turned left other than right to head back in. 



Jeff,  Curious to know what aspect(s) of the course beat you up. Before I retired, I visited the Twin Cities regularly. Stone Ridge was among  my favorites in that area (which has some good public options).  I've played it about a half dozen times (from the 6,100 yd tees), never felt beaten up and don't recall any unusually high scores. I think the course has a good mix of forgiving and more challenging holes. The fairways are overall pretty wide, there is water on only 1 or 2 holes, and neither the greens nor rough were exceptionally punitive.

Jim Sherma

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Re: Have you ever stopped mid-round because the course was awful?
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2021, 02:36:15 PM »
Certainly walked off courses due to slow play.


I can't remember where exactly, but I know I've walked off because of greens that were simply not puttable due to aeration or lack of grass.


I don't believe that I ever walked off due to questionable architecture, I am of the belief that everything is worth paying once.

Kalen Braley

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Re: Have you ever stopped mid-round because the course was awful?
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2021, 02:42:12 PM »
Certainly walked off courses due to slow play.


I don't believe that I ever walked off due to questionable architecture, I am of the belief that everything is worth paying once.


Jeff,

I'm not sure if you left off the 'l' on purpose.  But sure, everyone "pays" for every round, for better or worse,  whether you're actually paying or not!  ;)

P.S.  Agree with the consensus.  Never walked off a course due to it being poor, seems like we would all have some idea beforehand of what one is getting into before teeing off.

Thomas Dai

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Re: Have you ever stopped mid-round because the course was awful?
« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2021, 03:08:53 PM »
Many a time. Weather being the main culprit.
Never because I’d run out of golf balls though!
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Duncan Cheslett

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Re: Have you ever stopped mid-round because the course was awful?
« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2021, 04:21:40 PM »
I once played a course with a reasonable reputation near my home because I’d never been there before and also because it saved me the 40 minute drive to my club.


After five holes of tedium - a flat farmer’s field with fairways separated by walls of trees and few other features - I returned to my car and drove up to Cavendish.


A year or so later I had exactly the same experience on another local course. My tolerance level for mediocre golf courses is clearly very low.

Bill Seitz

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Re: Have you ever stopped mid-round because the course was awful?
« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2021, 06:00:59 PM »
We skipped the 18th at Turtle Point because of a mix of "we don't want to wait on the guys in front" and "this course sucks".  Granted, we only skipped one hole, but we just HAD to see the true calling card of Turtle Point***, which are the three holes* that play along the ocean**.


*By three, I mean 2.5, as one simply plays toward the ocean.


**By along, I mean parallel to, and kind of near the sand, but I'm going to have to take their word that there's an ocean there, because I couldn't see over the six foot high berm of sand separating the course from the alleged waterfront.  Really glorious views of........sand.


***Have I mentioned how much I hate Turtle Point?

Mark Kiely

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Re: Have you ever stopped mid-round
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2021, 07:30:01 PM »
Yes, about 12-15 years ago walked off that  _____ National Golf Club in Rancho Palos Verdes after nine holes. Spectacular views of the Pacific Ocean. Awful golf course.


I think it actually gets much better on the back nine, which is exactly why I'd probably never walk off without finishing a course.


Conversely, I finished RiverView in Santa Ana once!
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Mike_Clayton

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Re: Have you ever stopped mid-round because the course was awful?
« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2021, 08:15:07 PM »
No - but Greg Turner once drove from London to Celtic Manor to play a practice round for a European Tour event (one of the early ones there) played nine holes, went to the tournament office, withdrew and was home in time for dinner.

Bill Gayne

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Re: Have you ever stopped mid-round because the course was awful?
« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2021, 09:14:29 PM »
I've stopped mid round for various reasons including pace of play, not enjoying the people I'm with, and bored. Faking back pain works for me.

Daryl David

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Re: Have you ever stopped mid-round because the course was awful?
« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2021, 11:16:32 PM »
Wolf Creek in Nevada. Combination of slow play and dreadful course. Drove in after 7.

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