[Dan Herrmann]

I have 2 stories.
1.  I'm playing Bulle Rock (public Dye course in Maryland, and a good one).   Player enters the pro shop to pay his fee (he's a single), and the assistant pro treats the poor guy like dirt.  The customer didn't know, and I'm guessing it was going to be the highlight of his golf year.    For the assistant pro to act like an idiot was unforgivable.   The pro could have easily taken the customer to a private place and explained how jeans weren't allowed...   Could've let the client know that there were stores nearby and he'd work to make sure he had a tee time.    I was so upset at the pro that I haven't been back since.


2.  A few years ago, we were playing 7am golf for months, taking a shower, then driving almost 2 hours to spend time with my very sick mother-in-law.    When I was done with my shower, I was wearing cargo shorts and a t-shirt, and absolutely nobody cared.   First of all, my friends knew what we were doing, the pro knew, and get this - the club is still up and running today      BUT - I remember playing at Merion, taking a shower, but obviously I kept to the dress code on the way out of the facility due to the respect I have for my friend and for the world-class club.   My point is that it all depends on an each situation - what works for "A" may not work for "B".

[Kyle Harris]

Always err on the side of caution...generally, t-shirts are a no-no at top facilities.

Unless it’s in the 1950s at Huntingdon Valley.

[Kyle Harris]

One question for Gib:


How many of those restaurants, once you got past the dress code would allow equivalent behavior as not fixing ball marks, raking bunkers, playing slowly without letting any one through, harassing staff, etc. to go on?


For everyone else who’s head is so far up their ass they don’t realize because it is back in its original spot:


This isn’t a question of whether or not a private club had the right to dictate a dress code.


It is a question of why they chose to prioritize THAT low hanging fruit for refusal of service over things that actually cause harm to another’s experience.


Maybe I’m unique in the fact that another’s dress has NEVER caused me harm. Guess I’m lucky and privileged. What’s it like to be hurt by a t-shirt?

[Tommy Williamsen]

In some ways I am a bit old fashioned when it comes to dress. If I am working around the house and have to go to the hardware store, I will change from a tshirt to a collared shirt. What is appropriate dress is changing. I have watched that on the golf course, on planes, in restaurants, and at church. To be honest when I see someone dressed in a T-shirt and jeans at a funeral where I preside, I wonder why he/she doesn’t respect the family enough to wear something more appropriate. Outside of that I don’t much care. It is just difficult for some of us who grew up in more formal times to adjust. I remember going to Yankee Stadium as a kid in a coat and tie. However, very seldom do I wear a clerical collar. If you see me in one it is only because I am going to the ICU to visit a parishioner. There was always the joke, “If you see Pastor Tom in a collar, you must be dying!”


Some of us need to lighten up and so do some of our clubs.

[Rob Marshall]

It's real simple.....if you accept the invite you accept the rules of the club.  It doesn't matter if you think they are stupid or not.  If it bothers you that much, then don't go.  I am 100% good with the dress codes enforced by clubs because after all, they are private clubs and they don't have to let you in.  I'm playing Muirfield in Sept. and I am excited to put a coat and tie on and go have lunch.  I haven't worn a sport coast in 2 years and probably haven't worn a tie in 10!  Does it seem a little much by our American standards?  Sure but who cares.  I want to play there and have lunch so I will gladly go along.


My club here in the states makes you wear pants, no shorts.  I used to kind of wonder about that but over the years I absolutely love it.  You want to play there, you wear pants.  You don't want to wear pants. you don't play there.

I’m mind boggled by the refusal to wear pants. If I was asked to play Bel Air or LACC I wouldn’t think anything of it.

[Brad Lawrence]

One question for Gib:


How many of those restaurants, once you got past the dress code would allow equivalent behavior as not fixing ball marks, raking bunkers, playing slowly without letting any one through, harassing staff, etc. to go on?


For everyone else who’s head is so far up their ass they don’t realize because it is back in its original spot:


This isn’t a question of whether or not a private club had the right to dictate a dress code.


It is a question of why they chose to prioritize THAT low hanging fruit for refusal of service over things that actually cause harm to another’s experience.


Maybe I’m unique in the fact that another’s dress has NEVER caused me harm. Guess I’m lucky and privileged. What’s it like to be hurt by a t-shirt?

+1,000

[Jon Sweet]

One question for Gib:


How many of those restaurants, once you got past the dress code would allow equivalent behavior as not fixing ball marks, raking bunkers, playing slowly without letting any one through, harassing staff, etc. to go on?


For everyone else who’s head is so far up their ass they don’t realize because it is back in its original spot:


This isn’t a question of whether or not a private club had the right to dictate a dress code.


It is a question of why they chose to prioritize THAT low hanging fruit for refusal of service over things that actually cause harm to another’s experience.


Maybe I’m unique in the fact that another’s dress has NEVER caused me harm. Guess I’m lucky and privileged. What’s it like to be hurt by a t-shirt?

1st. The question in the thread had nothing to do with a dress code or whether a club could impose one or whether it was ok.
The question simply was, as a guest of a nice club with a dress club, would it be appropriate to show up in a tshirt and gym shorts to go inside to change. The majority answer was no. Then people took the thread off the rails.
2nd. If a club has a dress code, you’re aware of the dress code as a member or guest, you show up and attempt to play in something that doesn’t fit the dress code. Who’s in the wrong in this situation? The club for having it, or the person blatantly ignoring it?
I’d vote the latter. Putting the staff in a spot where they have to pull a guest or a member aside for something the member is clearly aware of is uncomfortable for all.
Different clubs for all types. It’s a big country.

[Jon Sweet]

One question for Gib:


How many of those restaurants, once you got past the dress code would allow equivalent behavior as not fixing ball marks, raking bunkers, playing slowly without letting any one through, harassing staff, etc. to go on?


For everyone else who’s head is so far up their ass they don’t realize because it is back in its original spot:


This isn’t a question of whether or not a private club had the right to dictate a dress code.


It is a question of why they chose to prioritize THAT low hanging fruit for refusal of service over things that actually cause harm to another’s experience.


Maybe I’m unique in the fact that another’s dress has NEVER caused me harm. Guess I’m lucky and privileged. What’s it like to be hurt by a t-shirt?

1st. The question in the thread had nothing to do with a dress code or whether a club could impose one or whether it was ok.
The question simply was, as a guest of a nice club with a dress club, would it be appropriate to show up in a tshirt and gym shorts to go inside to change. The majority answer was no. Then people took the thread off the rails.
2nd. If a club has a dress code, you’re aware of the dress code as a member or guest, you show up and attempt to play in something that doesn’t fit the dress code. Who’s in the wrong in this situation? The club for having it, or the person blatantly ignoring it?
I’d vote the latter. Putting the staff in a spot where they have to pull a guest or a member aside for something the member is clearly aware of is uncomfortable for all.
Different clubs for all types. It’s a big country.

With a dress code*
Also, within this there is room for a club to properly address issues with discretion and respect to the member quietly. However, the fact they have to do it at all to me show a lack of respect for the club and your fellow members. Within that, there is the guest that just didn’t know and as I’ve said a proper way to handle it. An easily avoidable situation.

[Ryan Van Culin]

Jon,


I think most everyone agrees that you should follow the dress code of the host club, and that you should bend over backwards to not embarrass your hosting member. I think that is why the thread went off the rails, especially when you mentioned gym shorts, lol. Maybe your question was "too easy" and needed to be taken down a rabbit trail.


Since when has a thread ever stayed "on the rail"? I am enjoying the detour, haha.

[Jon Sweet]

Jon,


I think most everyone agrees that you should follow the dress code of the host club, and that you should bend over backwards to not embarrass your hosting member. I think that is why the thread went off the rails, especially when you mentioned gym shorts, lol. Maybe your question was "too easy" and needed to be taken down a rabbit trail.


Since when has a thread ever stayed "on the rail"? I am enjoying the detour, haha.

Ryan,
My man! I’d say gym shorts was the easiest way to describe improper shorts. Running shorts, but not the type that rise a foot above your knee and an inch below your rear. More just similar to a plain type of short made of material you’d make running shorts out of but not play golf in. Happy to stir the pot. If I can get people cussing over it and calling names I figure it’s a good thread. You know it’s really good when somebody blames it on Trump.

[Mark Pritchett]

We have one picture of someone playing in a t-shirt at HVCC.  That is a pretty small sample size. 

[Tommy Williamsen]

Going back to the original question, it is different for a member to show up and change than a guest. I used to run before I played and change in the locker room. A guest would never think of coming to the course that way. When I finished my run I would go in the back entrance to the locker room. No one cared.

[Gib_Papazian]

Kyle,

Okay, you got me, but as long as we've gone completely off the rails and over the River Kwai Bridge . . . . .

Yes, Mr. Creosote came to your mythical restaurant appropriately dressed - which is why the waiter not only seated him, but brought a bucket.

If you're unfamiliar with either reference - having flunked the cultural literacy test - allow me to help educate you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxRnenQYG7I . . . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PskoqCtRFD4

Now, if I bring somebody to Olympic who refuses to rake the bunkers or fix their ball marks, they never get invited back. Then again, I was raised by very traditional Armenian parents, who taught me to respect other people's homes and clubs.

But all things being equal, I am admittedly at the bottom of the "Best Dressed" members list, with tattered golf shirts, bleach stained shorts and black socks to match my undies.

Nobody notices because I've been out there 47 years and considered hopelessly irredeemable - but at least the frayed shirt pocket usually has a Fishers Island logo, or something equally esoteric.

But then again, I seem to be the only person at Olympic who did not matriculate to a series of Jesuit parochial schools.

Of course, Joel Stewart never fails to make a snide comment, usually something along the lines of wondering if I am color blind; the truth is, I don't give a shit and only wear long pants for court appearances, funerals and weddings. So there are limits to my non-conformist hypocrisy. 

Which is also why, like Dennis Hopper, I never order Heineken at the downstairs bar . . . . . if you need help with that one, well, I must disqualify you as a playing companion.

One of Dave Schmidt's most endearing qualities (and there are many) is his insistence Exmoor Country Club carry Schlitz and Old Style beer, which explains much of the reason for our close friendship. 

hht
Putting all the twaddle above to the side for a moment, in the name of egalitarian fairness, I hold my guests to the same stringent standards of de minimus dress and comportment - but believe you me, we fix our ball marks (+1 or 2), replace our divots and are putridly nice to Patricia, the smokin' hot older broad who cooks our O-Club burgers.  Tipping is not optional . . . . . 

Now, when I go to play Cal Club with USMC Al Jamieson, I wear long pants as required. Luckily, Cal Club gets exactly 3 warm days a year, so non-breathable rain pants didn't get too uncomfortable - but I only had to make that mistake once.

The rest of your "questions" (read: argumentative, out-of-fucking-context dogshit) clearly demonstrate you are too much of a whiny, cancel-culture jackwagon to play anywhere beyond your local muni.  😜



 










 






 

[Kyle Harris]

We have one picture of someone playing in a t-shirt at HVCC.  That is a pretty small sample size.

There are hundreds more. Going as far back as the 1920s. They’re in the Bausch Archives.


And you realize this sample size was in an era where golf course photography was a RARE event, right?


Or did you have an Instagram account back then?

[Kyle Harris]

Gib,


If you’re done your latest bit of self-indulgence you’ll recognize the acute difference between being refused service IMMEDIATELY and never being invited back again


Priorities, man. And those are messed up no matter how you slice it.


P.S. you know me better than to think I missed the reference.

[V. Kmetz]

This isn't for Gippy, he's dead as impenetrable stone, that shipped has sailed... this is for all of the rest of you. 
And as for productive conversation On or Off topic... if Ran or whoever is going to let his crayon go on scrawling, then what the heck do I care if the thread is pulled. It was a click bait thread from a recent instigator to start with...


And for a dash of flavor, I'm putting it in Mucci Green.

I was raised by very traditional Armenian parents...


How the hell would a bastard like you know who the fuck his parents were?

All things being equal, I am at the bottom of the "Best Dressed" members list, with tattered golf shirts, bleach stained shorts and black socks to match my undies...


Yeah. not exactly a revelation there, we knew who you are ... Merely proves you don't lie about everything...oh wait a sec, you're a wordsmith..."'prevaricate' about everything."

But nobody notices because I've been out there 47 years - and the frayed shirt pocket usually has a Fishers Island logo - or something equally esoteric.
It's just like you to think we think that's cool...oldster, set in his ways, little will deter the self-styled libertarian.. but mainly you're drifting, which you do when you forget you're playing a character on this social media.. No one cares. I've been lucky to visit Fisher's more than a dozen times; you can find my schwag on the bookshelf, in the form of their club history. Meanwhile Dorfman, "tuck in those goddamn pajamas."

In the name of egalitarian fairness, I hold my guests to the same de minimus standard of dress - but believe you me, we fix our ball marks (+1 or 2), replace our divots and are putridly nice to the smokin' hot older broad who cooks our O-Club burgers.  Tipping is not optional . . . . . 


Avast and ho.. whatever shall we address here? Is "de minimus" akin to "de' shittiest"? Or would "shabby" have done; or "lower" or "sub"...? Regardless, I'm buying the divots, but what do you mean fix our ball marks... how can you ever leave a mark, when you almost never hit the green from more than 50 yards.  But truly, if you're fixing any, I've not cause to mention it besides putting it up your bum, love...

Of course few posts from G(L)ib come anymore without the obligatory female role of The Broad, to animate the loins and reawaken the chauvinist in all who hear the peel of his bell. There isn't a seat he hasn't sniffed nor a skirt he hasn't tried to periscope...of course the female staff at his club is in his target package. Wouldn't you like to have the following OSHA type sign posted in the Olympic staff break room:


NOTICE:
[/size]1. If you are a female homo sapien with a heartbeat, Mr G___________ P_____________ has thought of banging you.
[/size]2. If you are an nominally attractive female homo sapien (with or without a heartbeat), he told his guests he has banged you.
[/size]3. If you are a transvestite and allowed Mr. G.____________ P._______________ to get to 2nd base with you, there's $1,000 for the documentary evidence.




When I go to play Cal Club ([/size]name drop) with USMC ([/color]patriot name drop/ virtue signal - "I support veterans"[/color]) Al Jamieson, I wear long pants . . . . having only made that mistake once. Luckily, Cal Club ([/size]remember my name drop) gets exactly 3 warm days a year, so non-breathable rain pants didn't get too uncomfortable.


[/size]In the lone part of this devoted to the OT, I don't know what the hell clubs are doing restricting much beyond that which truly breaches the peace of the place, it's all such boujy bullshit...not t-shirts, t-shirts with obscenities or offensive slogans...revealing clothes...wear that could hurt the course... I love playing golf (and caddying) in jeans and there are some places that permit it, but not until November 1...and phones?? What; are you kidding me? How can you ban a phone in this day and age; it makes no sense  Music, phones, jeans, shorts, carts, caps on/off, whatever...I suppose one can make any rule they want, but if I can't go from my car through the clubhouse to get me or my guests to change at that point....there's bound to be a lot of other meaningless shit to go through; I've had a good life, Ill go elsewhere, thanks. Can't play Cypress? Fine then I won't play Cypress...billions have survived not playing it.

The rest of your "questions" (read: argumentative, out-of-fucking-context dogshit) just show you are too much of a jackwagon to play anywhere beyond your local muni.  😜
 
[/size]Oh yeah...him again... If anybody wanted shit from you, we'd squeeze your head. Now have some poison and go to sleep.

[Kyle Harris]

Also, the sheer assumption that dress codes is strictly within the bailiwick of the private club is laughable.


The muni I played growing up had a strict, and harshly enforced dress code. I’d venture that well over 90% of public access courses do.

[Jon Sweet]

This isn't for Gippy, he's dead as impenetrable stone, that shipped has sailed... this is for all of the rest of you. 
And as for productive conversation On or Off topic... if Ran or whoever is going to let his crayon go on scrawling, then what the heck do I care if the thread is pulled. It was a click bait thread from a recent instigator to start with...


And for a dash of flavor, I'm putting it in Mucci Green.

I was raised by very traditional Armenian parents...


How the hell would a bastard like you know who the fuck his parents were?

All things being equal, I am at the bottom of the "Best Dressed" members list, with tattered golf shirts, bleach stained shorts and black socks to match my undies...


Yeah. not exactly a revelation there, we knew who you are ... Merely proves you don't lie about everything...oh wait a sec, you're a wordsmith..."'prevaricate' about everything."

But nobody notices because I've been out there 47 years - and the frayed shirt pocket usually has a Fishers Island logo - or something equally esoteric.
It's just like you to think we think that's cool...oldster, set in his ways, little will deter the self-styled libertarian.. but mainly you're drifting, which you do when you forget you're playing a character on this social media.. No one cares. I've been lucky to visit Fisher's more than a dozen times; you can find my schwag on the bookshelf, in the form of their club history. Meanwhile Dorfman, "tuck in those goddamn pajamas."

In the name of egalitarian fairness, I hold my guests to the same de minimus standard of dress - but believe you me, we fix our ball marks (+1 or 2), replace our divots and are putridly nice to the smokin' hot older broad who cooks our O-Club burgers.  Tipping is not optional . . . . . 


Avast and ho.. whatever shall we address here? Is "de minimus" akin to "de' shittiest"? Or would "shabby" have done; or "lower" or "sub"...? Regardless, I'm buying the divots, but what do you mean fix our ball marks... how can you ever leave a mark, when you almost never hit the green from more than 50 yards.  But truly, if you're fixing any, I've not cause to mention it besides putting it up your bum, love...

Of course few posts from G(L)ib come anymore without the obligatory female role of The Broad, to animate the loins and reawaken the chauvinist in all who hear the peel of his bell. There isn't a seat he hasn't sniffed nor a skirt he hasn't tried to periscope...of course the female staff at his club is in his target package. Wouldn't you like to have the following OSHA type sign posted in the Olympic staff break room:


NOTICE:
1. If you are a female homo sapien with a heartbeat, Mr G___________ P_____________ has thought of banging you.
2. If you are an nominally attractive female homo sapien (with or without a heartbeat), he told his guests he has banged you.
3. If you are a transvestite and allowed Mr. G.____________ P._______________ to get to 2nd base with you, there's $1,000 for the documentary evidence.




When I go to play Cal Club (name drop) with USMC (patriot name drop/ virtue signal - "I support veterans") Al Jamieson, I wear long pants . . . . having only made that mistake once. Luckily, Cal Club (remember my name drop) gets exactly 3 warm days a year, so non-breathable rain pants didn't get too uncomfortable.


In the lone part of this devoted to the OT, I don't know what the hell clubs are doing restricting much beyond that which truly breaches the peace of the place, it's all such boujy bullshit...not t-shirts, t-shirts with obscenities or offensive slogans...revealing clothes...wear that could hurt the course... I love playing golf (and caddying) in jeans and there are some places that permit it, but not until November 1...and phones?? What; are you kidding me? How can you ban a phone in this day and age; it makes no sense  Music, phones, jeans, shorts, carts, caps on/off, whatever...I suppose one can make any rule they want, but if I can't go from my car through the clubhouse to get me or my guests to change at that point....there's bound to be a lot of other meaningless shit to go through; I've had a good life, Ill go elsewhere, thanks. Can't play Cypress? Fine then I won't play Cypress...billions have survived not playing it.

The rest of your "questions" (read: argumentative, out-of-fucking-context dogshit) just show you are too much of a jackwagon to play anywhere beyond your local muni.  😜
 
Oh yeah...him again... If anybody wanted shit from you, we'd squeeze your head. Now have some poison and go to sleep.

My bumper sticker says “recent instigator”.
How’d you know?
6 pages of rage posting… you’re welcome.
😉

[V. Kmetz]

My bumper sticker says “recent instigator”.
How’d you know?
6 pages of rage posting… you’re welcome.
😉

Right, you're clever; a veritable Sylvester McMonkey McBean

[Gib_Papazian]

I used to hit the button with a chuckle, because my twisted sense of jackwagon (overuse of stolen term, but what the hell) humor landed somewhere on a funny bone or two in the Treehouse.

Maybe I ought to resign from GCA - in the same way my Buddy Hackett schtick gave half of my FB friends a case of the vapors, which is why I shut off my page.

Her Redness, back in my columnist days, was always worried some enviroNazi or feminista would throw a molotov cocktail through our front window.

Perhaps, like Buddy, my time here has passed - and like Johnny Thunders - I ought to fade into the ether.

Feel free to write Ran and pull my Treehouse card, I thought part of the fun was the exchange of snarky repartee . . . . apparently not.   

In other words, V. Metz, perhaps my crayon is a bit too black for this brave new era. But then again, maybe I'm the only person around here who thinks I'm funny. And no, you never miss a reference.

Pabst Blue Ribbon . . . . .






     

[Kevin_Reilly]

Gib, you probably pissed off the same percentage of posters back in the old days as now.  But back then, there were only 30-40 of us who were regular participants here and on the prior boards, so maybe 5-7 were mad or offended, and now there are more...so, by volume if not percentage your critics have increased.


I have never liked, and quite frankly strongly dislike, your humor as it relates to sexual preference and comments about (some) women, but I put that aside because I usually enjoy your other unfiltered opinions on all things golf and life.  And I have played with you on multiple occasions, and that is a pleasure that I am sure most, if not all, here would enjoy.


The only thing in my mind you are an idiot about is still wearing baggy 1980s cotton golf shirts to play in 80+ degree temps.


Be well.

[Kalen Braley]

Gib,

The issue with your posts on GCA isn't much different from what afflicts the rest of us.  We all go off in the weeds on OT topics from time to time, but when its post after post of putrid political and misogynist cronyism, it gets old super quick. Especially in light of having seen victims of this stuff in the work place and amongst family and friends over the years (the worst of such, witnessing a very talented female co-worker being stalked by another employee and the company blowing her off for well over a year and refusing to discipline him until she finally got a restraining order and ended up leaving the company. )  Many of us just plain don't find humor in those kinds of topics and are quite frankly tired of it.

That being said, I do enjoy the wit/humor in your on topic banter on this site, even the self-deprecating stuff! And I hope you continue to post more of the latter and leave the former for Facebook where perhaps Zuckerberg will continue to tolerate it. 

[Lou_Duran]

One of Dave Schmidt's most endearing qualities (and there are many) is his insistence Exmoor Country Club carry Schlitz and Old Style beer, which explains much of the reason for our close friendship. 

hht
Putting all the twaddle above to the side for a moment, in the name of egalitarian fairness, I hold my guests to the same stringent standards of de minimus dress and comportment - but believe you me, we fix our ball marks (+1 or 2), replace our divots and are putridly nice to Patricia, the smokin' hot older broad who cooks our O-Club burgers.  Tipping is not optional . . . . . 
😜

To Kevin's point, back in "the old days" we had a couple dozen men like the Davids, Schmidt and Wigler, who would let it rip without being petty and who took the backlash without becoming personally vulgar (Scmidt also had a great way of laughing and poking fun at the responses.  Of course, he was blessed with sufficient horsepower that he didn't have a need to prove it).  These are gone, replaced in part by relatively unaccomplished, tortured souls who can't keep their contempt bottled up.


The primary issue is pretty simple, you are invited to a private club, learn what the conditions are and abide by them.  Some here know a Sand Hills member who would send a nice information package in advance to his guests which talked about the course and the club's expectations of its guests.  That level of consideration is somewhat uncommon, but many private clubs have a "Guest" section in their websites containing some of this information.  Know in advance what is expected and behave accordingly.


Raking bunkers, fixing ball marks, and handling trash properly should not even be a matter of discussion.  How about the guest of one of my friends at my home club who apparently stole a quantity of high-quality range balls from our practice facility (Callaway Chrome Softs with a small PRACTICE in light block letters on one side) and was seen playing them at another club by a friend who I had as a guest?   We as golfers need to do a better job of not only minding our behavior, but also that of our guests.


Gib- don't allow yourself to be exiled.  The DG has already been diluted too much.  In fact, get Shivas back on here.  I miss him.

[Jon Sweet]

How about the guest of one of my friends at my home club who apparently stole a quantity of high-quality range balls from our practice facility (Callaway Chrome Softs with a small PRACTICE in light block letters on one side) and was seen playing them at another club by a friend who I had as a guest?   We as golfers need to do a better job of not only minding our behavior, but also that of our guests.


Gib- don't allow yourself to be exiled.  The DG has already been diluted too much.  In fact, get Shivas back on here.  I miss him.



One of my favorite caddy tales is when a member was caught playing range balls on the course, NXT Tours w PRACTICE as bold as can be on them. Pro found out, confirmed they were in his bag.
Charged the member for a box of range balls to his account.
Beautiful.
I enjoy it being chippy w the back and forth but don’t understand it being personal.
It’s just an opinion on a golf course.
That’s it.

[Gib_Papazian]

Maybe it was a form of self-flagellation - or the maudlin mood I've been unable to shake since America was turned upside down - but while reading through this again from top to bottom, I began to wonder what some of the OG Treehouse stalwarts we have lost in the last few years would say about this thread.


It occurs to me there would have been a very simple litmus test that nearly everyone would have agreed on - aside from Johnny Thunders, who was our resident pugilist:


"What would Sir Bob Huntley say?"


In my mind, he would have chimed in on page 1 - and the discussion would have been settled; Uncle Bob (I loved him dearly) was not only a longtime member of the R&A, but a former Rhodesian amateur golf champion. When he entered the room, believe you me, everybody sat up in their chair and if indoors, reflexively removed their hat.


Nobody would have questioned the status quo, because he set the tone of gentlemanly comportment. The mere question of what was appropriate as a guest would gotten you "the look," and sounded as ridiculous as whether to wear a tie when being received by the Queen of England.




   

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