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Karl Jensen

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Two Herbert J. Tweedie Mystery Courses
« on: July 04, 2021, 12:46:53 PM »
Can anyone help figure out the two Tweedie Michigan golf courses the newspaper clippings below are mentioning?


I have already found evidence of Tweedie laying out


Charlevoix Golf Club, Charlevoix, MI
Higman Park Golf Links, Higman Park, MI
Lake Harbor Golf Club, Lake Harbor, MI


Herbert Tweedie mention, 10 May 1900 Rockford, IL Republic newspaper



Herbert Tweedie mention, 2 Nov 1899 Chicago, IL Tribune newspaper
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Sven Nilsen

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Re: Two Herbert J. Tweedie Mystery Courses
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2021, 02:22:53 PM »
Be interested in seeing the evidence for Charlevoix, Higman and Lake Harbor (if it isn't the 1900 Harpers notation) if it hasn't already been posted somewhere else.


Higman Park (or Highman Park as it was sometimes referenced) in Benton Harbor was noted in the press as a Bendelow 1903 design.


Spring Lake CC is noted as a 1911 Bendelow design.  I have no record of a course in Spring Lake preceding this one.  If the Tweedie course was built, it probably didn't last very long.


Surprisingly, there aren't many records of any c. 1900 courses in Grand Rapids other than Kent CC, which was laid out in 1896 by James Foulis.



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Karl Jensen

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Re: Two Herbert J. Tweedie Mystery Courses
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2021, 05:59:20 PM »
Here are the newspaper clips for Charlevoix and Higman Park. I only have the 1900 Harper's for Lake Harbor. Charlevoix appears to have been an addition of holes, possibly nine.


Charlevoix Golf Club article, 12 Sep 1899 Chicago, IL Tribune newspaper



Higman Park Golf Links article,10 Aug 1900 Chicago, IL Tribune newspaper
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Sven Nilsen

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Re: Two Herbert J. Tweedie Mystery Courses
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2021, 07:25:34 PM »
Here's the article referencing Bendelow laying out Higman Park in 1903.


May 23, 1903 Benton Harbor News Palladium -






I can find no record of the course prior to this date, which would suggest that Tweedie's layout was never built.
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Sven Nilsen

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Re: Two Herbert J. Tweedie Mystery Courses
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2021, 07:39:14 PM »
The Charlevoix expansion to 18 holes by Tweedie appears to have been very short lived.


-Oct. 1900 Golf Magazine notes 18 holes in use but only 9 of 2,390 yards in use as new 9 was put in this year. 
-1902 SOGG Directory of Golf Clubs notes a 9 hole course. 
-1913 SOGG notes a 9 hole course in Charlevoix. 
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Karl Jensen

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Re: Two Herbert J. Tweedie Mystery Courses
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2021, 08:03:44 PM »
I'm guessing there was a Tweedie course.


Higman Park advertisement, 16 Jul 1901 Saint Louis, MO Republic newspaper
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Sven Nilsen

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Re: Two Herbert J. Tweedie Mystery Courses
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2021, 09:08:04 PM »
Quote from: Karl Jensen on July 04, 2021, 08:03:44 PM
I'm guessing there was a Tweedie course.


Higman Park advertisement, 16 Jul 1901 Saint Louis, MO Republic newspaper



There are other newspaper accounts from the summer of 1901 that the golf grounds were being laid out.  Why would they say that if the course had already been laid out by Tweedie a year earlier.


Here's an April 1903 article indicating Tweedie returned to the property to inspect the grounds on which the course was to be developed.  A month later Bendelow was in town to lay it out.  This all sounds like the course took a while to develop from Tweedie's initial 1900 visit.


April 23, 1903 The Herald-Press -


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Karl Jensen

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Re: Two Herbert J. Tweedie Mystery Courses
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2021, 09:57:26 PM »
Sweet! Thanks so much. See what you can make out about Charlevoix from these search matches on Hathi Trust. I searched in the 1905, 1906, 1910 and 1913 matches. I got the impression of 18 holes of golf. Busy here watching fireworks. Will look at it closer tomorrow.


https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/ls?field1=ocr;q1=charlevoix%20golf;a=srchls;lmt=ft
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Karl Jensen

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Re: Two Herbert J. Tweedie Mystery Courses
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2021, 10:07:14 PM »
Just in case you don't already have it.


Higman Park Golf Links layout. 1 Apr 1905 Benton Harbor, MI The News Palladium newspaper
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Karl Jensen

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Re: Two Herbert J. Tweedie Mystery Courses
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2021, 07:15:47 AM »
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Sven Nilsen

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Re: Two Herbert J. Tweedie Mystery Courses
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2021, 10:51:54 AM »
Although the majority of evidence points to 18 holes, here's the 1913 Spaulding Official Golf Guide noting 9 holes.  Very confusing.


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Re: Two Herbert J. Tweedie Mystery Courses
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2021, 10:58:47 AM »
I played Charlevoix a few years back.  Tough to imagine where they would have located a second nine, but possible I guess.
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Sven Nilsen

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Re: Two Herbert J. Tweedie Mystery Courses
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2021, 11:42:59 AM »
Quote from: MCirba on July 05, 2021, 10:58:47 AM
I played Charlevoix a few years back.  Tough to imagine where they would have located a second nine, but possible I guess.


Mike,


The course did have 18 holes at some point. Pretty sure the additional land was located to the east of the current layout.


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Karl Jensen

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Re: Two Herbert J. Tweedie Mystery Courses
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2021, 12:19:32 PM »
A 1996 newspaper article the explains the downsizing of the course. Page 9 and 11.


https://www.newspapers.com/image/555169077/
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Sven Nilsen

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Re: Two Herbert J. Tweedie Mystery Courses
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2021, 12:36:36 PM »
That article has the 1937 transition back to 9 holes correct, but it certainly doesn't have the information about Watson right, who hadn't yet arrived in the US in 1896.
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