[Mike_Clayton]

Barnbougle has a winter offer coming up for July and August. They happen to be the best months to play because it's the least windy time of the year, the weather is good and few travel because they assume the weather is not very good.


2 night's shared accommodation at Lost Farm (very big rooms) a game at each of Barnbougle Dunes,Lost Farm and the new C&C Bougle Run (14-hole short course - 12 3s and 2 4s) and two cooked breakfasts.


It's $506 of our dollars - so about $380 US.


Of course none of you are allowed into the country at the moment (apologies) but it's $200 less than a single round at Pebble Beach.

[jeffwarne]

Two of my favorite courses.
Also home to several of the biggest spiders I have ever seen in my life, fortunately on the walls in the hallway outside my room.
Put the towels under the door to keep them out

[Jon Sweet]

Interesting thread. Really hard to figure. Someone’s expensive might be my no big deal and vice versa. Maybe we can agree on a scale, IE sub $100, $100-250, $250+ then argue within those categories.
I’d also assume these are ones you can play?
I try to leave price and conditioning out of it when looking at a course for its merits.
For here I’d say the best value would be Pasatiempo. Not sure of the current rate but one of the few of his you can play. Far less expensive than Pebble. I’d be fine simply walking Pebble and say I’ve seen enough of it. I can’t myself see dropping $500 plus so I’d rank that way up there with the worst value. Caddying has let me play a lot of courses for free so it’s really hard to drop 500 when I can play my course for free.

[Jon Sweet]

Two of my favorite courses.
Also home to several of the biggest spiders I have ever seen in my life, fortunately on the walls in the hallway outside my room.
Put the towels under the door to keep them out

I get night terrors about spiders. I’ll keep this place of my to do list.

[Kalen Braley]

Australia knows how to do spiders right Jeff.  I spent a couple of years on the East Coast a number of years back and there was no shortage of spiders as big as your hand, including a Wolf Spider we once found behind our toilet. 

P.S.  That package looks like a great deal, but the $4k flight to get there and back from Salt Lake would certainly hit the wallet.

[mike_malone]

I imagine that unaccompanied rates at some of the top courses are very high. Would you say $300 +?

[David_Tepper]

"For here I’d say the best value would be Pasatiempo. Not sure of the current rate"

Jon S. -

Current green fee rate at Pasatiempo is $325 to walk. Certainly cheaper than Pebble Beach, but no longer a "best value."

https://www.pasatiempo.com/index.php/golf/rates


DT
 

[Jon Sweet]

"For here I’d say the best value would be Pasatiempo. Not sure of the current rate"

Jon S. -

Current green fee rate at Pasatiempo is $325 to walk. Certainly cheaper than Pebble Beach, but no longer a "best value."

https://www.pasatiempo.com/index.php/golf/rates


DT

I’d say compared to others at that price point, it’s as good as it gets. For me, I’d rather pay the 3 than the 5 for pebble. More bang for the buck.

[Mike_Clayton]

Australia knows how to do spiders right Jeff.  I spent a couple of years on the East Coast a number of years back and there was no shortage of spiders as big as your hand, including a Wolf Spider we once found behind our toilet. 

P.S.  That package looks like a great deal, but the $4k flight to get there and back from Salt Lake would certainly hit the wallet.

It's funny how 'foreigners' always worry more about spiders and snakes than the locals - who barely consider them.


LA to Melbourne flights are normally way less than 4k - closer to half usually. Now - who knows what they are? I looked at going to London recently and it was 8k and 3k hotel quarantine when you get home.

[Michael Felton]

Two of my favorite courses.
Also home to several of the biggest spiders I have ever seen in my life, fortunately on the walls in the hallway outside my room.
Put the towels under the door to keep them out

I get night terrors about spiders. I’ll keep this place of my to do list.

I had a dream one night about being covered in spiders. My initial reaction was "meh", but then I remembered I live in the US now and that they have poisonous ones and I panicked and shoved myself out of bed. Dislocated my shoulder in the process. Paramedics, hospital visit, lots of PT, surgery on my destroyed labrum and more PT and I was able to get back on the golf course again. I hear your pain...


As to the OP, Bethpage Black is $70 midweek as a walk up if you live in state. There aren't many places that can compare with that.

[Phil Burr]

Agree with Mr. Tepper re Pasatiempo, particularly when the real cost of Pebble is $1,435 ($575 greens fee plus one night rack rate at cheapest room on property).  I’ve played as a walk-up twice (and didn’t get a tee time where darkness fell on the 16th tee), but I did so having a no-cost place to stay and at least three days available where I could check each morning for tee times.

[Michael Wolf]

Depends on what's considered top 100 golf, but St Andrews Beach in Oz, Lawsonia in the U.S, and Woking in England are top of the value list for me.


Michael

[John Mayhugh]

Depends on what's considered top 100 golf, but St Andrews Beach in Oz, Lawsonia in the U.S, and Woking in England are top of the value list for me.


Michael

Great shout on SAB. USD 71 at present. I would add Silloth (USD 90) and Royal Worlington (USD 111 for 18 holes) to the list.

Barnbougle is really tremendous value, even without the special deal listed above.

[jeffwarne]

Australia knows how to do spiders right Jeff.  I spent a couple of years on the East Coast a number of years back and there was no shortage of spiders as big as your hand, including a Wolf Spider we once found behind our toilet. 

P.S.  That package looks like a great deal, but the $4k flight to get there and back from Salt Lake would certainly hit the wallet.

It's funny how 'foreigners' always worry more about spiders and snakes than the locals - who barely consider them.

LOL really wasn't worried. but they were BIG and right above my door.
Certainly wouldn't deter me from returning.
The ticks here on the east end cause far more harm annually...

[Rob Marshall]

Cost me $2200 for two nights at the Lodge and a round on Pebble and Spyglass. They gave me a $200 cert to the pro shop so the real coast was $2000. Worth every penny. Two perfect days in late October. Forgot, plus $300 in tips for Caddie.

[Mike_Clayton]

Depends on what's considered top 100 golf, but St Andrews Beach in Oz, Lawsonia in the U.S, and Woking in England are top of the value list for me.


Michael

It's not the worst thing to have St Andrews Beach literally a minute down the road from my house.

[Joel_Stewart]

No doubt its a good deal but what about the weather?  It is winter and the weather this time of year can be severe.

[Duncan Cheslett]

I would add Silloth (USD 90) and Royal Worlington (USD 111 for 18 holes) to the list.

Note that $90 is the cost of a full day at Silloth, not just one round.


For a Top 50 GB&I course, and one on the cusp of the World Top 100, that is probably as good value as golf gets.


https://golfclubatlas.com/courses-by-country/england/silloth1/

[James Reader]

I’d been thinking about whether I could ever justify a night at Ardfin.  £1500 a night is obviously an awful lot of money but, as I understood it, that included unlimited golf and if I could play 3 rounds over 24 hours maybe I could convince myself (I’d worry about convincing my wife later!).


Now it seems that not only has the unlimited golf gone, they want £500 per round on top of the room cost.  I won’t be going!

[Tom_Doak]

No doubt its a good deal but what about the weather?  It is winter and the weather this time of year can be severe.

Joel:
The winter weather at Barnbougle is very comparable to Bandon.  The difference is that there are plenty of people in America who go to Bandon while it’s snowing or raining at home, but Barnbougle is the coldest place in Australia, so most Aussies head north.

[Mike_Clayton]

No doubt its a good deal but what about the weather?  It is winter and the weather this time of year can be severe.

Joel:
The winter weather at Barnbougle is very comparable to Bandon.  The difference is that there are plenty of people in America who go to Bandon while it’s snowing or raining at home, but Barnbougle is the coldest place in Australia, so most Aussies head north.

Tom,


The coldest - excepting for Hobart:) And our 'cold' doesn't really qualify as cold.

[Peter Pallotta]

A few weeks ago I learned here from a fellow poster about the Veblen Effect, and related Veblen Goods.
I'd suggest that maybe a certain segment of the American golfing public might serve as an excellent 'control group' for any further study into this phenomenon...

[Wayne_Kozun]

No doubt its a good deal but what about the weather?  It is winter and the weather this time of year can be severe.

Severe as in -20 and 30 cm of snow?

[Tom_Doak]

All of this is one side effect from all the rankings business that we never talk about.  When a course gets ranked, the price goes up.  It can't go up as much in some locations as in others, but it certainly goes up.


P.S.  You've got a year or two to get to St. Patrick's before the price goes up. 

[Garland Bayley]

...
P.S.  That package looks like a great deal, but the $4k flight to get there and back from Salt Lake would certainly hit the wallet.

Don't Utahans like to go to Honolulu? Fly round trip to Honolulu for $500. Fly round trip from there to Melbourne for $1200. Then golf your little heart out.

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