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Ira Fishman

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Cold Spring Country Club and Glen Head CC
« on: June 02, 2021, 11:22:59 AM »
My wife is playing Cold Spring today. It was designed by Raynor as an estate course for a wealthy industrialist and then purchased after WWII. It sounds as if RTJ Sr did a renovation. How much Raynor is left?


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Ira
« Last Edit: June 02, 2021, 01:21:44 PM by Ira Fishman »

Tom_Doak

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Re: Cold Spring Country Club—Long Island
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2021, 12:48:15 PM »
My wife is playing Cold Spring today. It was designed by Raynor as an estate course for a wealthy industrialist and then purchased after WWII. It sounds as if RTJ Sr did a renovation. How much Raynor is left?



You can vaguely tell it was Raynor's, if you're familiar with his work, but it has been changed substantially.

Ira Fishman

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Re: Cold Spring Country Club—Long Island
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2021, 01:19:07 PM »
Thanks. It turns out she is playing Glen Head CC next week. It bills itself as an Emmet design. Any insights on that one?


Ira

Tom_Doak

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Re: Cold Spring Country Club—Long Island
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2021, 02:48:24 PM »
Thanks. It turns out she is playing Glen Head CC next week. It bills itself as an Emmet design. Any insights on that one?



Glen Head was built as the Women's National Golf Club; Marion Hollins was involved with Emmet, and I believe there are some indications that Macdonald or Raynor had a role, too.  But it was built too close to the Depression, and quickly fell victim.  For a while the course was kept afloat by The Creek Club, and then it was re-formed into a separate club.


The routing was changed at some point and some features rebuilt.  It's not a bad course, but there are plenty better in that neck of the woods.

Ira Fishman

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Re: Cold Spring Country Club—Long Island
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2021, 03:26:06 PM »
Thanks. It turns out she is playing Glen Head CC next week. It bills itself as an Emmet design. Any insights on that one?



Glen Head was built as the Women's National Golf Club; Marion Hollins was involved with Emmet, and I believe there are some indications that Macdonald or Raynor had a role, too.  But it was built too close to the Depression, and quickly fell victim.  For a while the course was kept afloat by The Creek Club, and then it was re-formed into a separate club.


The routing was changed at some point and some features rebuilt.  It's not a bad course, but there are plenty better in that neck of the woods.


I know the history of the Women’s National Golf Club, but not the subsequent history. My wife is playing there in a charity event (one dear to our family). But I cannot wait to recount the story given all of the grief that she still gives me for playing Burning Tree 30 some years ago.


Ira

jeffwarne

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Re: Cold Spring Country Club and Glen Head CC New
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2021, 04:54:53 PM »
If Glen Head were in Georgia or SC, or nearly any other state, it'd be as famous as Palmetto ;)
Some interesting greens,like most courses in the MET Section.


Good course in very tough neighborhood-but I'm biased having won The Long Island Senior Open there and having advanced to the semis of the Long Island PGA there as well.


Cold Spring-a pretty good course-again tough neighborhood.A cool thumbprint green and again some interesting greens.
$25,000 for a hole in one on the thumbprint green in the pro-am I play there every year,
No bias here as I failed to qualify for match play in the Long Island PGA there a couple weeks ago;). It was saved from recent doom as Nicklaus was slated to REVERSE the routing of course-WTF. Not sure of its fate.
Very cool estate house/chateau out on the courses.


Tom's got it about right, BUT if they were located anywhere else besides Metro NYC they'd be rated upper tier.
« Last Edit: June 02, 2021, 07:33:23 PM by jeffwarne »
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