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Del Paso CC-Fowler? Soon to be redone?
Tommy_Naccarato:
Sean, Lets just say that my comments were done in the Spirit and Classic Lines of Fowler--you see, I want it always to be my way and my way only! ;D Actually, the over-seer of construction of Fowler's LACC North was Captain Thomas. Not really sold on many of Fowler's principles, Thomas choose to remodel the course in the late 20's and that course is the course that made it the reputable one that it is today. Thomas wasn't the first to disagree with Fowler's Principles--So did MacKenzie, who did in print say that he didn't agree with many of his designs, but still respected his knowledge and fundamentals. Or something to that extent.
So you see Sean, if you get over to Far Hills, you can help in uncovering this lack of proper material on Fowler. It will be of great help in this cause.
George, seven home runs in one Game is more then All Star material, it's hall of fame.
Pat, as eloquent as ever!
Patrick_Mucci:
SPDB,
I think a flaw exists in your assumption that Cliff Henry is a member of Del Paso.
If Cliff is an employee, and as I've indicated many times before, if you take the King's schilling, you do the King's bidding, his official position is predetermined irrespective of his personal opinion.
Cliff may not be in a position to consider any course of action other then that course of action as dictated by his employer, and as such he must support and promote that position, with his architectural blinders on.
He never answered the questions I posed to him.
Yet, he maintained that the project would incorporate the true spirit of Fowler's work. How can you do that if you don't know what that is.
And, Tom MacWood is 1000 % correct, why strive to play someones guestimate or interpretation of Fowler's true spirit,
when you can play the real deal ???
Something isn't passing the smell test !
Sean, I don't know if you follow or play chess, but are you trying to employ the famous Merion Defense ? ;D
Tommy_Naccarato:
Pat, You just have completed a three-move checkmate! ;D
Forrest Richardson:
George — Well said, until this part: "Surely a learned man such as yourself can see the difference between attempting to emulate the spirit of someone else's style and emulating a style of golf. Or perhaps not." "See" the difference? Or, "know" the difference? I suppose either way the result is similar.
As for Tom's insightful remark, I would suggest we all ask ourselves the same question as it relates to our conversation here — "Why would anyone want to engage in conversation on line rather than in person?" I can think of several rational answers — and also several to Tom's question relative to Del Paso/Fowler.
Tommy_Naccarato:
Rich, I ask you for some help here. Not with Fowler, but in helping me understand why it is that your always quick to be critical yet, never offer any help in the form of content other then a quick slam or insert of criticism that is always sent, "IMHO."
The fact is what credibility do you have in regard to research of golf other then showing up for a tee time? While I will always be a student of this game and this subject, I know that I know as about as much that can be expected for a working class electrician from La Habra. But for someone with your education, this stuff should be a snap for you to add some positive slant or insight and not be critical of others that are equally, if not more intelligent then you. (Tom MacWood for example)
Get with it, go search out some information on Fowler so we can help this really nice gal. Or is it just too beneath you?
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