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T_MacWood:
Rich
Being an obvious fan, perhaps you can make arangements for Kyle to redesign Dornoch after he completes Del Paso.

I agree Russell Talley would be a tremendous resource...I suspect if he were involved the direction would have been much different....what's an archie?

ForkaB:
Tom

If you ever make it up to Dornoch (which I hope you will some day--even you might learn something!) you will see that Dornoch does not need to be redesigned, although (as I have said many times before) my mind is always open to such possibilities, particularly since the course has been so vastly improved from the numerous previous interventions.

PS--I didn't coin the affectionate diminutive for architect ("archie"), but I'm happy to use it, when appropriate.

Forrest Richardson:
1.  I wonder whether this course can be truly "restored". Of course, I don't know as I've not been there and evaluated the site, work, archives or needs.

2.  I don't know a lot about Fowler, but his limited work over here would be very interesting to know more about. Of course, I haven't been to the club and seen what they have on hand about Fowler or his efforts.

3.  I am interested to know how much of Fowler's work is left at this property — indeed, I wonder how much of the property Fowler touched is still covered by golf. (And also: How much new property might be now used for golf.) Of course, I haven't been there to find this out, nor to study the assembly of land for the past many years.

4.  It would be great to know how Kyle is approaching the work. I have high regard for Kyle and his solutions. One of his motivations for leaving the large concern of Jones was to branch out and bring his personal creativity and interest to his work. Of course, I have not spoken with Kyle and understood his approach at Del Paso.

5.  The tendency here is often to throw things under the bus at first grasp. Of course.

Mindy:
Here is how I feel about our course. I know that this may be contrary to the norm and the thinking of the ad-hoc committee, however everyone deserves the right to voice their thoughts and if in the end we respectfully disagree then so be it.

The architecture of the course may very well not mean anything to anyone, but I am very passionate about the subject beacuse I think that it does matter. For 93 years we have been playing a course that was designed by an historically significant figure in golf course architecture, Herbert Fowler...would anyone tear down a Frank Lloyd home under the guise or movation that it will look like his original, would anyone resculpt Michaelangelo's David under the guise or motivation that it will look like his original? I think not, so why treat historically significant golf course architects and their courses any other way? Is a course not about the game of golf and the average golfer's shot making ability in order to be rewarded at the end of the day?  Perhaps the conversation we should be engaged in is restoration, not renovation. Perhaps the conversation that we should be engaged in is about "A Diamond in the Rough" and what would it take to polish up a valuable gem that we already own?

I understand the concepts that have been asked to be addressed in the new design, I just question whether or not it is right for Del Paso and lastly "What are the alternatives?" There are always alternatives.

Thank you again gentelman for your messages. I learn more each day. Mindy

Mindy:
Gentelmen, do not get me wrong when I speak of Kyle Phillips work...as an architect he may very well be a good and his work may very well be good. I will acknowledge that fact. Again, in the end if we respectfully disagree then so be it.

Mindy

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