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Del Paso CC-Fowler? Soon to be redone?
T_MacWood:
Courses in the spirit of Ross or in the spirit of MacKenzie or in the spirit of the links are littered all over this country--they are a dime a dozen. Why would anyone want a course in the spirit of Ross, MacKenzie or Fowler, when they can have an authenic Ross, MacKenzie or Fowler?
I'd be especially suspiscious of anyone promising to design a golf course in the spirit of Fowler. I'd suggest they look deeper than the club's archives. For one thing Fowler didn''t design many courses in the US to draw off of. And secondly many of his designs have been altered...the question is what are they basing their 'spirit' upon. You might think you're getting course in the spirit of Fowler and end up with a course in the spirit of Robert Muir Graves.
SPDB:
Tommy - Based on your reaction its hard to imagine why more green committees don't come here for insight.
That guy didn't deserve that. I'm not sure anyone would.
Why not show him the best of GCA, not the worst?
Tommy_Naccarato:
Sean,
I have apologized in my second post less then seconds afte I made the prevous one. I have my reasons--because just like Merion and others--no one listens and mistakes are made. It is evident that happened at Merion and others. I have dealt with similar issues at not one but two different CC green committee's here in SoCal that are exactly what is going on at Del Paso, which I explain in the previous post of contact I have had by one of the members. You need to read it more closely.
Tom MacWood hits it right on again, and it is no different then Yale or Merion--stupid decisions that amount to petty beauracracy. There needs to be a point of order--my point is to call them all extremists to their own cause while the original intent to design gets further shredded to pieces. Kyle Phillips like Tosh Belzinger will do an excellent job of making sure of that.
Tommy_Naccarato:
Simply put--its a lost cause.
A_Clay_Man:
SPBD- I can't speak for Tommy but I do see It really is at the "throwing up your arms" point. NOT appreciating the art of the architecture is, in the long run wasteful. If the green committee needs a crash course in Fowlers art, they should get it first, before making any decision. If they don't have the sense to learn about all the mistakes made in the last fifty years by other clubs, they probably don't have the sense to know that by valuing the art they will add to the bottomline, not to mention the one experienced golfing.
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