This is an open thread to discuss the positives and negatives of the course. You can talk about rankings or compare it to the other courses at Streamsong if you insist, but we did not build it with that in mind. Golf course developers would always prefer if
As many may know, the routing of both courses was a collaboration between me and Bill Coore. Originally, The Mosaic Company wanted us to build courses on two different sites [they had four in total, including the site for Streamsong Black], but both Bill and I thought that the one site was far superior, and it seemed close to big enough to fit both courses, so we agreed to work together toward that goal.
Bill had done a couple of 18-hole routings before I got involved, and a few of those holes made it into "my" course, but I won't identify those until the end of this discussion. [So you've got to tread carefully, because your critique might offend Bill !] Anyway, after some back and forth, we wound up with a 36-hole routing, and then neither of us wanted to be the one to choose who built which of them. Ben Crenshaw came in, walked both routings, and said he would be happy working on either of them.
Eventually, Rich Mack forced Bill to make a choice, and Bill attributes his choice of the Red course to the extra earthmoving it would require and Jimbo Wright's desire to have more work to do. I don't know if he was serious or not. I do believe that Bill did a better job with the Red course than I would have done, but to say that is to discount my whole crew and what they would have added to the design, so maybe he didn't do any better than WE would have done.
That's all I will say about it for now. I don't really intend to participate in the sense of arguing your opinions; but I may provide some background on why something was done the way it was, or call you out if you state something as fact that isn't.
Have at it!
P.S. The bonus here is that it's much easier for me to do now that our client Rich Mack is no longer at The Mosaic Company, so I don't have to worry about you [or me] offending him. One thing that posters here rarely think about is that as opinionated as I may be, I have clients to answer to, and their egos can be every bit as wrapped up in their golf course as mine is. Sometimes more! So if you think I am too positive about my own courses, I will admit that maybe sometimes that's true, but not for my own sake.