Course with the shortest green to next tee transitions?

[JohnVDB]

Gotta be the Old Course really, if played from the original tees -- which are literally a step off the previous green.

It would have been even shorter when you tees your ball wihin two club-lengths of the hole.

[Randy Thompson]

Mar Del Plata Golf Club in Argentina.

[Sean_A]

Often depends on which tees are played. I often play based on the closest tee to the previous green. I would also suggest that some walks offer added value. For instance, the walk up the hill from 9 to 10 at North Berwick affords a lovely view off the back of the tee. It's worth going an extra 25 yards. On the other hand, I wish the 12th tee was closer to the 11th green. Totally different and I think better angle for the hole.

Ciao

[Adam Lawrence]

Gotta be the Old Course really, if played from the original tees -- which are literally a step off the previous green.

It would have been even shorter when you tees your ball wihin two club-lengths of the hole.

quite!

[Steve Wilson]

When playing with guests at Golspie I always point out that the walk from the 12th green to the 13th tee is my favorite walk in all of Highlands golf.  It might be five yards.  Unfortunately the rest of the course falls away from that standard.

[Mike Nuzzo]

There is a 300' walk from the 7th green to the 8th tee.
There is a 100' walk from the 14th green to the 15th tee.
Then depending on the wind you can walk 0' or more to find a happy spot for the 18th tee.
Otherwise, every green has a connected tee at Wolf Point.
Almost as good as the old Old Course.
Peace

[Michael Felton]

The course I grew up on - Effingham GC in Surrey - is pretty good. Just google mapsed it and got a total of 2,405 feet, so 802 yards total, for an average of 47 yards. Shortest one is 9 to 10 - 18 yards.


Walton Heath Old looks like 2,129, for just over 700 total and 42 average. The 5 longest ones are 1,138 of the total, leaving 12 shortest of under 1,000 feet and a 27.5 yard average. 4 on the front nine are less than 20 yards. 2 to 3, 3 to 4, 5 to 6 and 8 to 9. That changes if you play the back tees quite a lot. I think there are 12 holes where you have your back to the green as you walk to the tee.

[Michael Underwood]

Of the "modern" private courses Ballyneal Golf Club comes to mind.


All very short walks from green to tee (500 - 600 yards total is my guess) and almost no walk from the following:


2 to 3
4 to 5
5 to 6
7 to 8
8 to 9
9 to 10
10 to 11
12 to 13
13 to 14
15 to 16

[Mark Kiely]

I recall relevant discussion of this topic in 2017 when Dave August hosted a handful of us at Desert Forest. I just looked at Google Maps to confirm that there are really no aberrations, but don't know how to calculate it. Anyone care to figure it out?

[JMEvensky]

Memphis CC would have to be in the mix. Other than 1-2 and 9-10, they're all just a few steps from the preceding green. Kris Spence would probably know to the penny if he sees this.

[SL_Solow]

For sure it isn't the Cape Breton Highland Links

[Wade Whitehead]

Sheep Ranch?

Haven't been there (going June 2022) but distances look short.

WW

[Tim_Weiman]

Ballybunion stands out for me. There are quite a few short walks from greens to the next tee.

[Tim_Cronin]

Onwentsia has very short walks from green to tee. Maybe 25 yards most of the time. A bit more if the tee is directly behind the previous green, just in case someone is long. Makes for a relaxing walk.

[Tim Gallant]

Often depends on which tees are played. I often play based on the closest tee to the previous green. I would also suggest that some walks offer added value. For instance, the walk up the hill from 9 to 10 at North Berwick affords a lovely view off the back of the tee. It's worth going an extra 25 yards. On the other hand, I wish the 12th tee was closer to the 11th green. Totally different and I think better angle for the hole.

Ciao

Sean, that's interesting! I don't care for the new back tees on 12, but I never thought about shifting the angle. Where would you put it?

[Sean_A]

Often depends on which tees are played. I often play based on the closest tee to the previous green. I would also suggest that some walks offer added value. For instance, the walk up the hill from 9 to 10 at North Berwick affords a lovely view off the back of the tee. It's worth going an extra 25 yards. On the other hand, I wish the 12th tee was closer to the 11th green. Totally different and I think better angle for the hole.

Ciao

Sean, that's interesting! I don't care for the new back tees on 12, but I never thought about shifting the angle. Where would you put it?

There is space for a small tee left of 11 green and on the natural plateau behind the green. The angle is much more difficult and makes the left bunkers make more sense. The views there would be lovely. It does seem odd to walk away from the coast and views for the current tee.

Ciao

[Tim Gallant]

Often depends on which tees are played. I often play based on the closest tee to the previous green. I would also suggest that some walks offer added value. For instance, the walk up the hill from 9 to 10 at North Berwick affords a lovely view off the back of the tee. It's worth going an extra 25 yards. On the other hand, I wish the 12th tee was closer to the 11th green. Totally different and I think better angle for the hole.

Ciao

Sean, that's interesting! I don't care for the new back tees on 12, but I never thought about shifting the angle. Where would you put it?

There is space for a small tee left of 11 green and on the natural plateau behind the green. The angle is much more difficult and makes the left bunkers make more sense. The views there would be lovely. It does seem odd to walk away from the coast and views for the current tee.

Ciao

I'll have a look next time I'm there and snap a photo. I did think there might be something just off the back of the green that would be interesting.

[John Ezekowitz]

In its original routing from before Princeton University took the old clubhouse back, Springdale Golf Club must be a contender. With that routing, I measure about 700 yards from green to next member tee with several under 30 yards and one at 20! That one works as the prior hole is a 130 yard par 3 with a tree screening the next tee.


I guess you have to be compact when the course (6,400 yards) is routed over ~110 acres.

[Greg Hohman]

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[Joshua Pettit]

Valley Club is very compact, with many of the tees tied into the previous green complex, especially considering you have to cross Sheffield Drive twice (from 2 green to 3 tee and from 12 green to 13 tee).

I did a quick survey and came up with the following.  Keep in mind that these measurements can fluctuate based on what part of the green edge you measure from and where the tee markers are positioned on any given day, but the following represents pretty accurate average distances to the member tees:

1 Green > 2 Tee:  32 Yards
2 Green > 3 Tee:  143 Yards
3 Green > 4 Tee:  27 Yards
4 Green > 5 Tee:  29 Yards
5 Green > 6 Tee:  33 Yards
6 Green > 7 Tee:  17 Yards
7 Green > 8 Tee:  32 Yards
8 Green > 9 Tee:  21 Yards
9 Green > 10 Tee:  19 Yards
10 Green > 11 Tee:  18 Yards
11 Green > 12 Tee:  40 Yards
12 Green > 13 Tee:  84 Yards
13 Green > 14 Tee:  10 Yards
14 Green > 15 Tee:  78 Yards
15 Green > 16 Tee:  7 Yards
16 Green > 17 Tee:  11 Yards
17 Green > 18 Tee:  10 Yards

TOTAL:  611 Yards
AVERAGE:  35.9 Yards

[David Ober]

Lakeside in Burbank has to be among the shortest.

[Tim_Weiman]

In its original routing from before Princeton University took the old clubhouse back, Springdale Golf Club must be a contender. With that routing, I measure about 700 yards from green to next member tee with several under 30 yards and one at 20! That one works as the prior hole is a 130 yard par 3 with a tree screening the next tee.


I guess you have to be compact when the course (6,400 yards) is routed over ~110 acres.

Despite attending Princeton, I never actually played Springdale, though I think Ernie Ransome once told me I should. Need to do so.

[David Ober]

Lakeside in Burbank has to be among the shortest.

Haven't surveyed, but would guess that Lakeside is about 500 to 600 yards -- if you exclude the walk from 9 to 10, which is a decent distance of probably 200 yards?

[David Davis]

I'm going to say Utrecht de Pan has to be in the running.


It must come down to semantics on how you measure things of course, I just ran through it making guesses and came up with 250-300 yds in total. Almost every tee is right at a safe distance to the last green and on such a small compact property. Part of the genius of Colt.

[Ira Fishman]

Swinley Forest is another Colt course that fits the bill.


Ira