Streamsong vs. World Woods

[Steve Salmen]

For the folks out there who have played golf at Streamsong and World Woods, is the preference of one destination over the other considerable or is it a close call? 

Any and all help is really appreciated.

Steve

[SL_Solow]

No comparison as to the golf.  Last I checked, pricing is very different.  Nothing wrong with World Woods but Streamsong is in a different league.

[Ian Mackenzie]

Steve - it's just different. Everything.


WW is great and Ive been twice. Thought it was one of the best values in Pay to Play golf. Cart-balling for sure.
Super laid back, double Fazio but in a good way. Peerless practice facility, range, putting course and practice course.


SS...is more of a resort experience and the prices reflect that. "Bandon of Florida", etc.
I have only been once and went with a buddy and we both did a double take when we settled the bill.


But, as Shel says, the golf is in a different league. So is the clientele.

[Mark_Fine]

Totally different kinds of golf courses/experiences especially Rolling Oaks so hard to compare.  Some will like one kind of golf better than the other.  If you are trying to decide to visit one or the other, I would go to both 

[Joe Bausch]

Read what Ian and Mark typed above.


Spot on, IMHO.

[Jason Topp]

Streamsong - great golf, accommodations with the price to match.


Worldwoods - good golf courses everything else is adequate but not luxurious.   Price is terrific for what you get.   


I would choose based on the tastes and budget of my group. 

[Rob Marshall]

It’s been a while since I was at WW but it is WAY cheaper than Streamsong. It’s a steal for the price. I’ve only played the Blue but I agree it’s apples and oranges. I think Pine Barron’s is a very good course but the Blue is better.

[Tim_Weiman]

Totally different quality of golf. World Woods opened to a lot of hype. Great practice physicality. The Pine Valley knock of is ok, not too bad, I guess. The Augusta knock off - wasn’t that what Rolling Oaks was supposed to be? Kind of? .......nothing special.


As others have said, Streamsong is in a different league.

[Tim Gavrich]

Steve - it's just different. Everything.


WW is great and Ive been twice. Thought it was one of the best values in Pay to Play golf. Cart-balling for sure.
Super laid back, double Fazio but in a good way. Peerless practice facility, range, putting course and practice course.


SS...is more of a resort experience and the prices reflect that. "Bandon of Florida", etc.
I have only been once and went with a buddy and we both did a double take when we settled the bill.


But, as Shel says, the golf is in a different league. So is the clientele.

For what it's worth, I enjoyed walking both World Woods courses. I really appreciate the lack of continuous cart paths there. Both courses are nicely routed, IMO.


Brooksville is also home to one of Florida's most underrated courses: Brooksville Country Club, which has a stretch of holes on the back nine that is truly bizarre and wonderful. I also liked Southern Hills Plantation Club, the Pete Dye course in town.


Streamsong's golf courses are definitely superior, but if you consider the expense, the Brooksville area stands out nicely in its own right as a destination.

[Bill Gayne]

I'm in Pinehurst tonight and question from dinner: Pinehurst or Streamsong? I said definitely Streamsong October through April. I think Streamsong is the best modern resort complex in the East.


Would like to hear from others.

[jeffwarne]

Others have addressed this but it will depend entirely on who is making the trip.


World Woods-two very good courses, cartball, lunch in a trailer-back for 18 more.
I really like both courses but mostly the low key, no frills, no dick waxing.
I like staying in Brooksville with a little something to do-bowling, bars, restaurants.
Just more in line with a buddies golf trip for me.(always tied it into PGA Show to avoid Orlando deluge)
Brooksville CC good as well-used to throw in Dunes and El Diablo-both NLE


Streamsong-now 3 great courses(haven't played the Black)
All 3 are must plays.
more hoopla, more spread out, FAR more expense.
The hotel is quite luxurious, but quite a sterile experience-nowhere near anything.

[David Wuthrich]

I agree with Jeff!

[Mike Hendren]

It's simply a matter of genetics and upbringing.   For money and relaxation, I take World Woods 10 out of 10 - a little cart-ball is good for the older soul.     Coupled with a stay at the Chaz - www.chazhotel.com it's as good as it needs to be from my perspective.  Our group of 8 each had their own bedroom at the Chaz and had the run of the place with outstanding home cooked breakfasts and dinners.  Walk to pool hall but keep your mouth shut to avoid an unwelcome knuckle sandwich - that's a row for you boys and girls across the pond.   

Sorry to hear about the Dunes  nearby - it was a solid add on.  Also, a few years back the owner of the Chaz could also book tee times at Black Diamond Ranch's Quarry course.  It's a solid Fazio famous for the quarry holes which don't disappoint at all. 

A flashback with Matt Ginella before he became famous:

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/ambush-whiskey-fiber

Then again, I'm a simple kind of man.

Bogey

[Paul Rudovsky]

agree w all and would add that the differences very much a function of the world in general and the world of golf in the periods when the two facilities were opened...very different in many ways including "economics" and "golf architecture"

[jeffwarne]

Bogey,
I took my staff to the Chaz!
Might have been at your suggestion.
Went fishing and nearly froze to death.
The local pool hall is not Disneyland....

[PCCraig]

I'm in Pinehurst tonight and question from dinner: Pinehurst or Streamsong? I said definitely Streamsong October through April. I think Streamsong is the best modern resort complex in the East.


Would like to hear from others.

Pinehurst.

[Tommy Williamsen]

Because of the cost WW is the place I return to periodically. Streamsong is a once kind of place for me. If only the quality of golf is the criterion the SS is the one.

[Kalen Braley]

Don't want to sidetrack the thread, but how does Bandon compare to Streamsong cost wise. 

For apples to apples comparison, lets say peak season, 3 days, 2 nights, 5 total plays?

[Tom_Doak]

Don't want to sidetrack the thread, but how does Bandon compare to Streamsong cost wise. 

For apples to apples comparison, lets say peak season, 3 days, 2 nights, 5 total plays?

Peak season, the green fees at Bandon are $50 higher per round.
Lodging and food wise, Bandon gives a broader range of price points, I think, so you can keep those costs down a little if you need to.  [But most of the people going there in peak season don't need to.]


I remember well on one of my first visits to Bandon, I sat in on a meeting where they were setting price points for the opening of the resort.  Green fees, caddie, room, food added up to $500 per day, and everyone shook their heads that should work.  [It's almost double that now.]  Even then, I did the math in my head quickly, and figured they would pay my design fee with 3-4 days' worth of revenue.

[Joel_Stewart]

Love how every golf message board in the world talks about how cheap World Woods is.  The main reason is they have an owner who has run it into the ground, hasn't been on property for 5 years, is now 88 years old and will only sell if he can get out for what he put into it 30 years ago.   There is room for a 3rd course.


Comparing the two properties is ridiculous. The vibe and style are completely different.  With that said, having played all 5 courses, World Woods Pine Barrens would be my favorite if it was restored or renovated.  I posted quite a few photos on my Instagram page showing what it looks like now compared to 30 years ago.  The differences are shocking, and its all because  its not properly maintained due to limited budget and staffing. 

[jeffwarne]

 


Comparing the two properties is ridiculous. The vibe and style are completely different. 

Yet you, and the rest of somehow just did.
Which is good information for those seeking to compare on a variety of fronts.

[Matthew Sander]

Comparing the two properties is ridiculous. The vibe and style are completely different.
 

Is it though? Steve asked for thoughts from those that have seen both, seemingly to aid in making a decision which to visit in an either/or proposition. Comparing and delving into how they contrast would seem to be germane.



EDIT: Oops! Jeff beat me to it. Not trying to pile on!

[Rob Marshall]

Love how every golf message board in the world talks about how cheap World Woods is.  The main reason is they have an owner who has run it into the ground, hasn't been on property for 5 years, is now 88 years old and will only sell if he can get out for what he put into it 30 years ago.  He's thinking $25 million on a property that is break even and needs $10 million in repairs plus a clubhouse and accommodations.  There is room for a 3rd course.  I only say this because at least a dozen potential investors have looked at the property including myself.   


Comparing the two properties is ridiculous. The vibe and style are completely different.  With that said, having played all 5 courses, World Woods Pine Barrens would be my favorite if it was restored or renovated.  I posted quite a few photos on my Instagram page showing what it looks like now compared to 30 years ago.  The differences are shocking, and its all because  its not properly maintained due to limited budget and staffing.

Disappointing to hear. It's been a long time since I was there. My father got his only hole in one on Pine Barrons. I've been trying to get back there when we do an annual Innisbrook trip but they are always over seeding that week it seems.

[Kyle Harris]

I need to chime in here.


You can always, and should, walk World Woods. Also, I think Rolling Oaks is better than Pine Barrens but play Pine Barrens if you have time for one.


I love the place.

[Joel_Stewart]

Comparing the two properties is ridiculous. The vibe and style are completely different.

Is it though? Steve asked for thoughts from those that have seen both, seemingly to aid in making a decision which to visit in an either/or proposition. Comparing and delving into how they contrast would seem to be germane.

EDIT: Oops! Jeff beat me to it. Not trying to pile on!

I'm just providing facts and I was just there a few months ago.  You have a modern resort with 54 holes of golf against a 30 year old 36 hole golf course that is in disrepair and has no accommodations and the clubhouse is a trailer.  That's not a comparison. As for my taste in the golf courses, it would be a big effort to bring Pine Barrens or Rolling Oaks up to the standards of Streamsong.