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Wade Whitehead

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Consecutive Par Fours
« on: January 16, 2021, 05:37:43 PM »
What is the greatest number of consecutive par fours you've seen on a great golf course?

I'd be surprised if this has never been discussed here before, but I can't find it anywhere.

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Kris Spence

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Re: Consecutive Par Fours
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2021, 05:45:09 PM »
Biltmore Forest starts the backside with 5, squeezes in a par 3 on 15 before finishing with 3 straight 4’s.
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Tim Gallant

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Re: Consecutive Par Fours
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2021, 05:53:45 PM »
I believe Prestwick closes with 6 par 4s!
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Tim Martin

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Re: Consecutive Par Fours
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2021, 06:29:25 PM »
Warwick CC starts with six par fours and seven of the first eight.
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Michael Wolf

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Re: Consecutive Par Fours
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2021, 06:33:14 PM »
Elie of course has 16 P4's, including two stretches of 7 straight.


If you're not limiting to modern definition pars as stated on the current scorecard, I'd think there would be interesting numerologies on a few older Japanese courses, including Kobe GC.


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Ally Mcintosh

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Re: Consecutive Par Fours
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2021, 06:35:04 PM »
The Island started with eight par-4’s up until this year.


Elie finishes with seven par-4’s.
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David_Elvins

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Re: Consecutive Par Fours
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2021, 06:46:00 PM »
Depending on the routing used, RM composite has a heap. 


I think the latest pres cup went 10W, 11W, 12W, 17W, 18W, 1E, 2E, 3E which I think made 8.


Fair to say no two are close to being alike.
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JohnVDB

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Re: Consecutive Par Fours
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2021, 07:08:50 PM »
Dornoch closes with 5 and they are all very different.
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Mike_Trenham

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Re: Consecutive Par Fours
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2021, 07:14:21 PM »
Merion West - 7 holes - 7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14

Sand Hills  - 6 holes - 7,8,9,10,11,12
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Andrew Harvie

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Re: Consecutive Par Fours
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2021, 07:23:37 PM »
Walter Travis' Lookout Point closes with 6 par 4's in a row, but it's not original. 15 and 16 were a par 5 back in Travis' day
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jeffwarne

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Re: Consecutive Par Fours
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2021, 07:26:53 PM »
Palmetto opens with 5, and the 6th is played as a par 4 for top competitions
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Peter Pallotta

Re: Consecutive Par Fours
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2021, 10:45:28 PM »
Quote from: Michael Wolf on January 16, 2021, 06:33:14 PM
Elie of course has 16 P4's, including two stretches of 7 straight.
It sounds like absolute heaven to me.
I wish I was a big shot in the world of golf course architecture, or at least a highly respected and well-travelled panelist who'd played 82 of the Top 100 in the world.
If so, I could make a powerful case for downgrading any course that had more than 2 Par 5s and 2 Par 3s, the stupidest and the most boring Pars in golf, respectively.
There is nothing good and grand and great in golf that can't be accomplished via the magnificent and multi-faceted Par 4, the absolute best Par and the very soul of the game.

Alas, given my actual status -- never mind.
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Mark Pritchett

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Re: Consecutive Par Fours
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2021, 10:54:30 PM »
Quote from: Mike_Trenham on January 16, 2021, 07:14:21 PM

Merion West 7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14

Sand Hills 6,7,8,9,10,11,12


SH #6 is a Par 3
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Steve Lang

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Re: Consecutive Par Fours
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2021, 11:39:57 PM »
 8)  Inverness Club closes with 5 par fours that get your attention from the tips with


#14: 482 yd
#15: 472
#16: 451
#17: 483
#18: 358
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Paul Dolton

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Re: Consecutive Par Fours
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2021, 02:50:35 AM »
Frilford Heath in Oxfordshire has seven par 4s on the red course. 12-18
The Green course, since they have changed the starting point , finishes with 6 par 4s.
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Mike_Trenham

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Re: Consecutive Par Fours
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2021, 08:56:45 AM »
Quote from: Mark Pritchett on January 16, 2021, 10:54:30 PM
Quote from: Mike_Trenham on January 16, 2021, 07:14:21 PM

Merion West 7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14

Sand Hills 6,7,8,9,10,11,12


Yep, I fixed it, Thanks


SH #6 is a Par 3
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Matt_Cohn

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Re: Consecutive Par Fours
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2021, 11:15:23 AM »
This might not totally count, but if you tee off #10 at Inverness or Winged Foot West, as happens in tournaments, you'd play 7 in a row from #14 to #2.


If anybody did that at The Old Course, they'd play 8 in a row from #15 to #4. But I doubt that ever happens.
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Wade Whitehead

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Re: Consecutive Par Fours
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2021, 02:21:32 PM »
I'm hoping architects can respond: How many times have you routed more than three par fours in a row?

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Paul Rudovsky

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Re: Consecutive Par Fours
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2021, 05:17:38 PM »
How about nine in a row?  I played Green Spring Valley Hunt Club just north of Baltimore in late October.  Hosted US Girl's Junior Championship in 1999.  Architects who have worked on this one include Tom Bendelow, Herb Strong, Robert Trent Jones Sr., and currently Tyler Rae.  Not great but a fun short course of 6623 yards.  Holes #7-15 are all par 4's  (#7 is very very good).  Never had seen nine in row before.


Second highly unusual feature...BOTH #1 and #18 are par 3's...anyone ever see that (excluding par 3 courses!)?


Lastly, this (although not architecturally related)...anyone ever play a club with four or more words in its name (excluding words "Club", "Golf", "Country", "The", "&", "Tennis", or "Beach")??  Otherwise Royal Lytham & Saint Annes Golf Club probably wins this sweepstakes!
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Michael Moore

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Re: Consecutive Par Fours
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2021, 05:57:51 PM »
The Honourable Company of Edinburgh Golfers is five, but man do I prefer Muirfield.
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Ally Mcintosh

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Re: Consecutive Par Fours
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2021, 03:04:16 AM »
Quote from: Wade Whitehead on January 17, 2021, 02:21:32 PM
I'm hoping architects can respond: How many times have you routed more than three par fours in a row?

WW


It wouldn’t even cross my mind not to. If I ever get these new holes at Strandhill through planning, the resequenced course will have one stretch of 6 par-4’s in a row (4 to 9).
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Mark Pearce

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Re: Consecutive Par Fours
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2021, 04:18:14 AM »
Quote from: Michael Moore on January 17, 2021, 05:57:51 PM
The Honourable Company of Edinburgh Golfers is five, but man do I prefer Muirfield.
The course is Muirfield, the club is HCEG.  So Muirfield is the correct name for this thread anyway.
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Adrian_Stiff

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Re: Consecutive Par Fours
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2021, 04:35:25 AM »
Oadby Nr Leicester was until recently 18 holes. The front nine was all par 4 holes. So a run of 9. Sadly a NLE, but they have resurected the front 9 but it now has a couple of short holes.
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Scott Weersing

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Re: Consecutive Par Fours
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2021, 09:09:04 AM »



Pacific Dunes is a great course that has 4 consecutive par 4s, no 6, 7, 8, and 9. But then only two par 4s on the back nine, no. 13 and no. 16.


Cavalier Golf and Yacht Club (Banks and L. George) in Virginia Beach is a par 69 and has 6 in a row, no. 12 to no. 17, and finishes with a par 3,

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Ira Fishman

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Re: Consecutive Par Fours
« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2021, 11:08:15 AM »
Brora opens with 5 Par 4s.


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