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mike_malone

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Crappy conditions at Masters?
« on: November 14, 2020, 04:07:44 PM »
I’m just watching but it seems that the grass is thin and there are patchy spots there.
AKA Mayday

Peter Flory

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Re: Crappy conditions at Masters?
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2020, 04:39:49 PM »
They had to overseed, it rained a ton, and it is fall. 


Just think what this would be like if the initial forecast held and it rained every day. 

mike_malone

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Re: Crappy conditions at Masters?
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2020, 04:57:22 PM »
They had to overseed, it rained a ton, and it is fall. 


Just think what this would be like if the initial forecast held and it rained every day.


Crappier?
AKA Mayday

archie_struthers

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Re: Crappy conditions at Masters?
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2020, 05:29:12 PM »
 8) ::)


Man these Rolling Green guys are spoiled :P





Looks pretty good to me

Tom Bacsanyi

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Re: Crappy conditions at Masters?
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2020, 05:33:04 PM »
I am far from an Augusta apologist, but saying that turf 3 weeks out from an overseeding event is "crappy" is like saying that a toddler is useless because he can't hold down a job. These are young plants and it takes time for them to mature into the typical stand that you see in April.


And as for the comment "they had to overseed," no they always overseed. The entirety of the time the club is open the turf is overseeded rye on bermudagrass wall to wall except for the bent greens.


I'm feeling like the Agronomy Police these days.
Don't play too much golf. Two rounds a day are plenty.

--Harry Vardon

Bill Gayne

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Re: Crappy conditions at Masters?
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2020, 05:37:38 PM »
ANGC gets criticized for being overly manicured and conditioned to the point that critics say it's bad for golf. This week it's presented with some imperfections and it gets criticized.

jeffwarne

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Re: Crappy conditions at Masters?
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2020, 05:55:58 PM »
ANGC gets criticized for being overly manicured and conditioned to the point that critics say it's bad for golf. This week it's presented with some imperfections and it gets criticized.


 ;D
Still would've loved to have seen October on bermuda
"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
"Take their focus off the grass and put it squarely on interesting golf." Don Mahaffey

archie_struthers

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Re: Crappy conditions at Masters?
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2020, 06:00:18 PM »
 8) ;D


Hey Mayday look what you started!










lol ;D

A.G._Crockett

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Re: Crappy conditions at Masters?
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2020, 06:02:52 PM »
ANGC gets criticized for being overly manicured and conditioned to the point that critics say it's bad for golf. This week it's presented with some imperfections and it gets criticized.


 ;D
Still would've loved to have seen October on bermuda
Jeff, I think we talked about this way back when the pandemic started and the Masters got moved, but I suspect that the Bermuda there is NOT the hybrid stuff that good golf courses have nowadays.  And if it's old "common" Bermuda, well...
"Golf...is usually played with the outward appearance of great dignity.  It is, nevertheless, a game of considerable passion, either of the explosive type, or that which burns inwardly and sears the soul."      Bobby Jones

Andrew Harvie

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Re: Crappy conditions at Masters?
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2020, 06:20:56 PM »
8) ::)


Man these Rolling Green guys are spoiled :P





Looks pretty good to me


Brian Chapin treats them well!
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Mark_Fine

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Re: Crappy conditions at Masters?
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2020, 06:43:15 PM »
I am just happy to be watching the tournament in any conditions.  Great distraction from the the U.S. news  :'(

Don Mahaffey

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Re: Crappy conditions at Masters?
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2020, 07:10:48 PM »
There are no “bare” spots. Just some areas where the overseed is a little thin due to being pushed a little too hard early in the process.
ANGC set the date and set the agronomic plan.  They got a bad break with the downpour on Thursday.  But I’m guessing it’ll be as sporty as it has been all week tomorrow.  Expect wayward shots around the greens to bounce a little harder snd farther on Sunday. 

Pete_Pittock

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Re: Crappy conditions at Masters?
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2020, 07:15:28 PM »
#12 green looked thin

jeffwarne

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Re: Crappy conditions at Masters?
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2020, 07:25:01 PM »
ANGC gets criticized for being overly manicured and conditioned to the point that critics say it's bad for golf. This week it's presented with some imperfections and it gets criticized.






 ;D
Still would've loved to have seen October on bermuda
Jeff, I think we talked about this way back when the pandemic started and the Masters got moved, but I suspect that the Bermuda there is NOT the hybrid stuff that good golf courses have nowadays.  And if it's old "common" Bermuda, well...



I thought about that looking at the turf today wth those great drone shots.
This year they get to play on both!
"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
"Take their focus off the grass and put it squarely on interesting golf." Don Mahaffey

Terry Lavin

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Re: Crappy conditions at Masters?
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2020, 07:48:54 PM »
It’s not pristine but we have a great leaderboard. In such an aberrant year, this is all we are entitled to l, I guess. Dustin looks dialed in. Here’s hoping he finishes what he’s started.
Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people.  H.L. Mencken

Peter Flory

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Re: Crappy conditions at Masters?
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2020, 07:59:55 PM »
What would you consider to be a bad leaderboard from this field?

mike_malone

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Re: Crappy conditions at Masters?
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2020, 08:42:35 PM »
8) ;D


Hey Mayday look what you started!

Archie,
 Just having fun. By the way you need to see why we are spoiled up here. Dramatic changes in the last year. Come on up.








lol ;D
AKA Mayday

William_G

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Re: Crappy conditions at Masters?
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2020, 11:17:58 PM »
I’m just watching but it seems that the grass is thin and there are patchy spots there.


patchy spot of rye overseed, but it is covered in bermuda, what are you saying?
It's all about the golf!

Greg Chambers

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Re: Crappy conditions at Masters?
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2020, 11:23:21 PM »
The golf course is amazing...as it always is.  Today was the first day I watched...it looks like The Masters to me.  Anybody worrying about the visuals of the turf are picking at nits.
"It's good sportsmanship to not pick up lost golf balls while they are still rolling.”

Thomas Dai

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Re: Crappy conditions at Masters?
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2020, 03:41:18 AM »
Some of the tees looked damp if not wet so it was a surprise to see so many players not wearing spikes. Slips can cost shots and when there's a green jacket as stake .....
atb
13th tee round 3
« Last Edit: November 15, 2020, 08:37:07 AM by Thomas Dai »

Anthony_Nysse

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Re: Crappy conditions at Masters?
« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2020, 05:33:41 AM »
I am far from an Augusta apologist, but saying that turf 3 weeks out from an overseeding event is "crappy" is like saying that a toddler is useless because he can't hold down a job. These are young plants and it takes time for them to mature into the typical stand that you see in April.


And as for the comment "they had to overseed," no they always overseed. The entirety of the time the club is open the turf is overseeded rye on bermudagrass wall to wall except for the bent greens.


I'm feeling like the Agronomy Police these days.


Depending on how you view the exact dates, the overseed is 45-50days old.
Anthony J. Nysse
Director of Golf Courses & Grounds
Apogee Club
Hobe Sound, FL

Matthew Rose

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Re: Crappy conditions at Masters?
« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2020, 07:16:40 AM »
I actually kinda enjoy seeing it like this.
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Tim Martin

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Re: Crappy conditions at Masters?
« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2020, 07:21:38 AM »
8) ::)


Man these Rolling Green guys are spoiled :P





Looks pretty good to me


Brian Chapin treats them well!


Brian did a great job at Paramount and continues in the same vein at Rolling Green. Also a super nice guy!

Niall C

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Re: Crappy conditions at Masters?
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2020, 08:23:23 AM »
As someone brought up on a clay course in the west of Scotland looks pretty fine to me. The only comment I have is the number of references to mud balls. Presumably muttering "mud ball" when duffing a shot with an iron/wood is the equivalent to when they miss a putt they should have sunk and start patting down some imaginary spike mark on their line ?


Niall

Lou_Duran

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Re: Crappy conditions at Masters?
« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2020, 10:45:42 AM »
I should be damned to such conditions for eternity.