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John Crowley

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BCD hole 13 day one
« on: November 12, 2020, 11:44:48 AM »
BCD bombs it, true.
How’s he doing so far with his club selection into 13 and chipping skills from behind the green?
Is he a complete player or just a bomber?

Matt_Cohn

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Re: BCD hole 13 day one
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2020, 11:49:37 AM »
I don't mean to pick on you in two consecutive threads, but any golfer can look like an idiot for one hole. Questioning BDC's skills based on that is a bit silly.


What was interesting was Oostuizen laying up from 193 from grass and BDC going for it from pine needles around the same yardage. Given BDC hit one into a bush and the provisional into the water, his decision doesn't seem wise.
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Andrew Harvie

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Re: BCD hole 13 day one
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2020, 01:15:46 PM »
He's played his first 10 holes the worst I've ever seen him play since he bulked up and he's even. Give it time
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jeffwarne

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Re: BCD hole 13 day one
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2020, 07:00:03 PM »
He's played his first 10 holes the worst I've ever seen him play since he bulked up and he's even. Give it time


Isn't that the truth.
a 70 and it seemed like he was shooting a million
scary-I'd say that bodes well for him
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Peter Flory

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Re: BCD hole 13 day one
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2020, 07:04:28 PM »
BCD bombs it, true.
How’s he doing so far with his club selection into 13 and chipping skills from behind the green?
Is he a complete player or just a bomber?


He was 18th in strokes gained putting at Winged Foot. 

JESII

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Re: BCD hole 13 day one
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2020, 09:40:48 PM »
The guy just won the US Open by 6 or 7 shots...he could vanish and no-one in their right mind could question the completeness of his game.


Will he win every major he ever plays again? Not likely...I'm betting his career ends up somewhere between those two extremes.


Some of the wedge shots he hits are remarkable given the length and weight of his wedges. He can obviously get hot with the putter.


I don't know, today he hit the ball poorly and is well alive. At WF, it seemed he wa sin the rough on the correct side of the hole every time. That's no accident.


Not a fan of the antics, but it sure is interesting watching what he's doing to the other top guys.

John Crowley

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Re: BCD hole 13 day one
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2020, 12:48:49 AM »
I don't mean to pick on you in two consecutive threads, but any golfer can look like an idiot for one hole. Questioning BDC's skills based on that is a bit silly.


No problem, it is a bit silly to cite one hole to make a case.


I am just a sceptic regarding the early extrapolation of BDC’s career. If eventually, he does have a truly great career, good for him.

Thomas Dai

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Re: BCD hole 13 day one
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2020, 04:07:02 AM »
BDC's choice of 2nd shot on the 13th was interesting given that he was only 4 holes into round-1 with 3 more rounds to go.
I wonder what other players, great players and others, would have done in the same situation at the same stage in their career?
atb

Mike Bodo

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Re: BCD hole 13 day one
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2020, 07:07:32 AM »
BDC's choice of 2nd shot on the 13th was interesting given that he was only 4 holes into round-1 with 3 more rounds to go.
I found his choice of shot selection interesting as well, as he looked somewhat dead to me where his ball ended up following his drive. I didn't even think he had a shot at the green originally and would be forced to layup short, which I believe he should have done in hindsight, gotten his par and lived to fight another day. Obviously, he took the more aggressive approach and in neither instance did it work (provisional ball included). That said, even with his double on 13 he managed to play the par 5's in -1 under par. I doubt he will play them anything more than that the rest of the days of the tournament, boding well for his chances to be in contention on Sunday.
"90% of all putts left short are missed." - Yogi Berra

Kalen Braley

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Re: BCD hole 13 day one
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2020, 10:38:31 AM »
Wasn't he in a similar spot to where Phil put it on in 2 to make eagle on his way to one of his Masters wins?

Mike Bodo

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Re: BCD hole 13 day one
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2020, 11:19:40 AM »
Wasn't he in a similar spot to where Phil put it on in 2 to make eagle on his way to one of his Masters wins?
Phil was a little farther back, but yes.
"90% of all putts left short are missed." - Yogi Berra

Kalen Braley

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Re: BCD hole 13 day one
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2020, 03:24:37 PM »
Day 2, the BCD kryptonite hole-of-the-day is #3:

Tee ball goes left in the rough.  Declared lost ball after 10-20 guys looking feverishly for it unable to find it. Audio reveals BCD begging the rules official over and over if there is some alternative to it being a Lost Ball, and he's like "Sorry, nothing I can do for you".

Back to the tee, tee ball again left in the cabbage.  Next shot flies the green, ensuing chip still not on the green.  Another 7.

Wayne_Kozun

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Re: BCD hole 13 day one
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2020, 04:29:37 PM »

Thomas Dai

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Re: BCD hole 13 day one
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2020, 05:54:45 PM »
For the sake of posterity - BDC 2nd round 2020 - 317 tee-shot, 124 to the hole.
atb

Edit - addition of video with words by Butch Harmon and Ewan Murray on UK Sky Sports - https://twitter.com/i/status/1327378074938306561


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Kalen Braley

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Re: BCD hole 13 day one
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2020, 06:05:20 PM »
For the sake of posterity - BDC 2nd round 2020 - 317 tee-shot, 124 to the hole.
atb





The good Dr would certainly raise his glass to toast that!!



Tim Leahy

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Re: BCD hole 13 day one
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2020, 06:19:01 PM »
Don't believe the hype! I did. :o
Go DJ!
I love golf, the fightin irish, and beautiful women depending on the season and availability.

jeffwarne

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Re: BCD hole 13 day one
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2020, 06:35:54 PM »
Don't believe the hype! I did. :o
Go DJ!


I left out Bryson i my pool of 20 players, mainly because the odds at 7-1 were just ridiculous for a guy who has won one major, and there were much better choices available.(Charles Howell at 250-1 for instance)
I would say he would have a better chance with the course playing firmer on and around the greens, though I can't remember the last time I saw that. Easier to stop a wedge than a 6 iron, and currently the biggest enemy the players have is too much drawback on super soft greens.
With the greens this soft, anything holds and that actually bunches the field and helps the medium and shorter hitters.
"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
"Take their focus off the grass and put it squarely on interesting golf." Don Mahaffey

Tom Bacsanyi

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Re: BCD hole 13 day one
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2020, 06:54:25 PM »
If you moved the tee not back, but 10 yards left (remove bushes limb up or remove trees), wouldn't the player not be able to gain enough altitude to play the nuclear option from that angle? So you'd have to play the sling hook which is the more orthodox aggressive play?
Don't play too much golf. Two rounds a day are plenty.

--Harry Vardon

jeffwarne

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Re: BCD hole 13 day one
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2020, 06:58:30 PM »
If you moved the tee not back, but 10 yards left (remove bushes limb up or remove trees), wouldn't the player not be able to gain enough altitude to play the nuclear option from that angle? So you'd have to play the sling hook which is the more orthodox aggressive play?


I agree with that but I'm pretty sure the land falls quickly towards the creek when you go left of tee.A good idea though if possible and we'd get to see an actual curve again.
Perhaps a little of both.
"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
"Take their focus off the grass and put it squarely on interesting golf." Don Mahaffey

John Crowley

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Re: BCD hole 13 day one
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2020, 09:54:05 AM »
DJ is a complete player.