I'm rooting for Bryon Chambeau

[Steve Lang]

   I saw BCD say that he bulked/strengthened up to protect his back... so I hope he recognizes the feedback when it occurs.


So glad there's no coronations in golf!  Got to put the ball in the hole in least strokes...

[Gib_Papazian]

Lapper,


Just don't read my posts, I don't read yours because your thoughts are not worth pondering.


For everybody else:
 
Nobody ever directly asked Tiger Woods about steroids, but the question was the elephant in the room.


His body broke down like nobody since Bill Glasson . . . . my guess is there is a connection.


Bryson getting dizzy spells might be related to whatever concoction he is forcing on his body - even competition bodybuilders ramp it down after an event, Bryson has to keep it up all season and beyond.


There is an explanation, but it is not protein shakes and pumping iron.

[Steve Lapper]

Lapper,


Just don't read my posts, I don't read yours because your thoughts are not worth pondering.


For everybody else:
 
Nobody ever directly asked Tiger Woods about steroids, but the question was the elephant in the room.


His body broke down like nobody since Bill Glasson . . . . my guess is there is a connection.


Bryson getting dizzy spells might be related to whatever concoction he is forcing on his body - even competition bodybuilders ramp it down after an event, Bryson has to keep it up all season and beyond.


There is an explanation, but it is not protein shakes and pumping iron.

Gib (aka Karen),


   Ahhh, I see your sensitivity(to any criticism) meter has gone haywire (inc. your PM telling me to f.... off!...very nice). Thank you for the warm and fuzzy greeting!


    I'd expect more than a tirade of ad hominem attacks for merely suggesting you suppress your political leanings.

  You see I have a bad habit of reading anything I want to whenever I want to and thinking for myself. My apologies if my thoughts about leaving politics off this site offended you.

  You are obviously intelligent and an entertaining author, yet I didn't see where your medical or psychological resume conferred a degree in either journalism or physiology. Maybe I missed something?

Best wishes for a better day!
 

[Gib_Papazian]

Nice job, you just killed the thread.

That a 63 year-old man would use the term "Karen" says it all.

Nobody directly asked Tiger about his, ahem, "transformation," now did they?

Nope. It is the exact same softball-questions bullshit. I spent several hours with Tiger, just before he turned Professional. Lanky, super-strong kid, but three years later, his muscles rippled when he walked - and his neck looked like it belonged on a wrestler. Remember Sammy Sosa (since you are old)?

And at the time, I was a weekly columnist and magazine writer, with all sorts of access in tournaments.

My eyes do not lie . . . . . like KAAAAmala Harris. See? I worked that in, just for you!   

[Garland Bayley]

...
  You are obviously intelligent and an entertaining author,
...

I would note that you don't have to be intelligent to be entertaining.

[jeffwarne]

Sad that wild conspiracies with zero evidence now get such airplay.
One look at an aging Earl Woods would tell you that there was a chance wiry Tiger might eventually morph to something less wiry, but I'm sure there's a You Tube video or a Four Seasons press conference (makeup optional)to debunk this.




Pudgy?

[Kalen Braley]

Couldn't agree more Jeff. 

Tigers "transformation" has been very gradual over 2+ decades, and it was certainly expected he would put some heft on given his Dad was certainly not a small guy. All the difference in the world from that and morphing into a BDC beef cake in less than a year...

[Rob Marshall]

Kalen, Tigers transformation was nowhere near as quick as Bryson but over the course of a couple of years he began to look like he could have been a cornerback in the NFL. He still looks to me like he’s in pretty good shape. I just don’t see Tiger taking steroids. He didn’t need them. Of course neither did Roger Clemens or Barry Bonds. They had hall of fame careers before they took anything. Tiger was already crazy long. I just don’t see a use for them in golf other than length. I think he cares too much about his legacy to F it up like that imho.

[A.G._Crockett]

I have no idea whether or not Tiger Woods (or anybody else on Tour, for that matter) used PED's.

But more to the point, I have no idea what Tiger Woods has to do with Dechambeau.  There are LOTS of guys on Tour that look like Tiger now; McIlroy, DJ, Koepka, and so on.  Tiger's body looks like his parents' bodies, and I don't think seeing somebody who looks like he looks is particularly surprising.  Maybe he cheated; maybe he didn't; I could live with it either way.  When I was 18 years old, I was 6-2 and weighed 145 lbs; my father weighed well over 200 lbs.  By 30, I looked a lot more like him than I did the kid I was in HS, and it didn't have a thing to do with PED's.  Doesn't mean Tiger didn't cheat, but the changes in his body over a period of years in his 20's doesn't mean he did, either.


There is NOBODY on Tour that looks like BDC; nobody.  To believe that he did this naturally, you have to believe that he was able to do something thru lifting and diet that nobody else can do, and to believe that, you have to believe that he has a work ethic unlike anyone else and a knowledge base unavailable to anyone else.  Both of those ideas are laughable.

[Steve Lang]

   I don't know about laughable, seems to be a lot of grimaces happening,  nice setup for BDC, long drive champ seems to dig it too...


https://youtu.be/IHbcJpAZYm4

[Tom_Doak]

There is NOBODY on Tour that looks like BDC; nobody.  To believe that he did this naturally, you have to believe that he was able to do something thru lifting and diet that nobody else can do, and to believe that, you have to believe that he has a work ethic unlike anyone else and a knowledge base unavailable to anyone else.  Both of those ideas are laughable.

I will happily argue this point.  The reason nobody else has transformed their body to look like Bryson is that nobody else would have even thought to try.


Gaining 30-40 pounds deliberately is so far outside the norm of what most people see as "conditioning" that it wasn't anyone's target at all . . . most pro athletes are much too vain to go in that direction.  And I do believe that you've got to be trying very hard with a very specific program to gain all that weight and still be in good shape.


Of course it's possible Bryson took steroids, just like it's possible that any other player on Tour has done it, but that's 100% speculation and to point a finger at him is unwarranted.  The most amazing thing about his transformation is that he committed to doing it when nobody else would -- and that it worked!

[Peter Pallotta]

T -
yes, and plus: BDC is not some winless late 30s journeyman who in a last desperate shot at redemption before losing his card for the 5th time and quitting the game for good tries some outlandish new elixir developed by a disbarred veterinarian and Rosicrucian from Belarus, but instead a highly touted college golfer and US Amateur (and NCCA Division 1) champion who by his mid 20s had already won 5 or 6 times on the PGA tour playing the game in the 'traditional' way. As I've noted before: whether you like him or not, he's a fascinating rarity: the total 'insider' who freely chose to be the complete 'outsider' -- and has succeeded remarkably well at both!

[Kalen Braley]

Based on personal experience when I dabbled with body building in my younger years in college and the research I've done on the topic, I would say the opposite is true. 

While there is a very small possibility he did it that quickly, in natural fashion, its far more likely he had some "help". Professional natural body builders can put on 2-3 lbs of muscle per month when they first start, but that's 6-8 hours in the gym, 6 days per week, and a very strict diet regime.  For someone to do all that and be able to have enough recovery time to fit in all the golf practice, and all the travel, much less the various other demands of a professional golfer it becomes extremely unlikely.

P.S.   No one disputes his game plan, commitment, or dedication, its the timeline that he did it which is very doubtful at best.

[Jim Sherma]

I have no skin in the game as far as Tiger or Bryson goes. However, Tiger certainly got a pass for his association with Anthony Galea, the Canadian who plead guilty to illegally supplying PED's and other unapproved treatments to his clients. His client list included both Tiger and A-Rod. Of course, all his clients pled ignorance and denied ever getting PED's from him.


When you have the resources to be treated by any doctor on the planet it certainly does not seem like the reasonable choice of an innocent man.

[Steve Lang]

   No comments about the Prime Fitness equipment in his garage seen in the linked gm_golf video?  Or he's been connected officially with Prime since March 2019, and earlier through his trainer???  He must easily have $25,000 of stuff there and has obviously learned physiology, and how muscles work, this isn't dabbling in the gym!

[A.G._Crockett]

Based on personal experience when I dabbled with body building in my younger years in college and the research I've done on the topic, I would say the opposite is true. 

While there is a very small possibility he did it that quickly, in natural fashion, its far more likely he had some "help". Professional natural body builders can put on 2-3 lbs of muscle per month when they first start, but that's 6-8 hours in the gym, 6 days per week, and a very strict diet regime.  For someone to do all that and be able to have enough recovery time to fit in all the golf practice, and all the travel, much less the various other demands of a professional golfer it becomes extremely unlikely.

P.S.   No one disputes his game plan, commitment, or dedication, its the timeline that he did it which is very doubtful at best.

Kalen, you are dead on here.  And I suspect that you are phrasing this more charitably than you really feel about it. 

[Erik J. Barzeski]

Nobody ever directly asked Tiger Woods about steroids, but the question was the elephant in the room.

That's not true. I've been present when people have asked him that on at least two occasions.

[Steve Lang]

   F=MA, Testimonial on BDC, Greg Roskopf, Muscle Activation Techniques, "Muscle Tightness is Muscle Weakness"


client-testimonial

[Rob Marshall]

  F=MA, Testimonial


client-testimonial

Interesting that he makes a steroid denial in the testimonial.

[Steve Lang]

   rob, Would be more interesting if another pro worried about injury from over swinging used Roskopf's MAT approach to get physio-balanced but not bulk up like BDC...

[A.G._Crockett]

I watched the entire video; it didn't change a thing for me.  A golf-specific, highly targeted approach to strength training is standard stuff not only on Tour, but for a lot of amateur golfers, and has been for some time now.  The availability of machines might be a bit different, but the amount of weight and the particular movements that are in play here are standard stuff.

I do not believe that this guy knows anything about physiology and the golf swing that isn't know by others.  I do not believe that BDC has a work ethic that exceeds all others on Tour; I just don't.  And I will say it again, repeating what Kalen wrote a few posts ago; I've never seen anybody add the bulk that BDC has added in the time frame that he's added it through ANY sort of weight training. 


One other note about the video, and correct me if I'm wrong.  The trainer only mentions BDC's bulk increase briefly toward the end of the video, and does not really associate what he does with BDC to the bulk gains, which seems more than significant.  And certainly, if you look at the weight amounts that he lists the workouts he has BDC doing, those amounts don't account for significant increases in muscle mass.  Strength yes, but not a gain of 40 lbs or more.

[archie_struthers]

 


What Jim Sherma said about Galea rings true. Why else?


Understand that if you are super competitive and can't heal most would do anything to get back to their previous level. Who wants to be in pain and unable to perform.


As to PED's isn't it also evident that their use can also help eyesight, didn't Barry Bonds slip up and say the ball looked like a grapefruit. Perhaps this helps with golf , I'm sure it helps putting. So logic would suggest it happened.

[Steve Lang]

 

Hey, I’m just researching this Bryson stuff, curious to see what’s out there in public domain, not exercising by jumping to conclusions, etc.. The only strength training I ever did was for high school swim team, I remember one year our coach thought it’d be good to work out with wrestling team for the week before we got into the water, NOT!!!  50 yds underwater at end of practice was far more enjoyable...

It looks like Roskopf’s MAT approach extends from the conventional muscle building stuff, his thing is focused on groups of muscles being balanced to tolerate forces at play and eliminating dysfunction, evidenced as protective muscle tightening the body uses to guard against weakness or instability.   Stability leads to mobility, range of motion that can be sustained.  So he’s not talking about bench or squat lifting type (compound) strength per se, BDC has taken the muscle isolation approach and successfully integrated it, paradigm shift.  After all, Roskopf fractured some vertebrae playing football, I can appreciate him getting interested in biomechanics, forces on muscles, and body joint pain and putting it all back together.https://youtu.be/UuJUgk4TUzM

Sure, there’s one set of human muscles, and plenty of experts to exercise and supervise athletes.  He’s made a career out of his path, working with pro teams, building a business.   Appears to offer more than PT, treadmills, and weights available in the PGA Tour trailers. Only seems to promote getting BDC to the basic goal of everything activated and balanced as AG_C noted, but he’s measuring forces in range of motion.

BDC Admits to eating a lot after his workouts, I wonder if they included milk shakes like Jack?:
https://youtu.be/_F1H0Td7pxs

Roskopf, a 3 yr process with Bryson to build the present foundation, optimize from baseline tight hips and low spinal rotation to build mobility:
https://youtu.be/t_tc4xhtI-A

Balancing, improvement, Protecting from injury:
https://youtu.be/51jOHlt4Tfc[


Bottom Line, It takes a bit of diligence to get through some of these links but give it a go.  I'm probably more interested in this MAT info for my father-in-law's frozen shoulder issues than anything, but its interesting to learn as age, like rust, never sleeps.   Get Activated

[John Kavanaugh]

I've never understood the sport of insulting celebrities when people you know provide so much ammunition.

[Erik J. Barzeski]

I've never seen anybody add the bulk that BDC has added in the time frame that he's added it through ANY sort of weight training. 

How much weight did he put on and over what time frame do you think it occurred? How much was muscle and how much was just a bit of a belly?

He was ingesting like 7-10,000 calories/day.