Master's bans green- reading books

[Buck Wolter]

I think it's a great first step. Next allow only Master's tees that are 2.5" long. 13 clubs? 10-56 degree loft limits? 42" Shaft limit? A master's ball?


What else should/could they do? (edited font)






But at Augusta National, which has always played by its own set of rules, the topographical maps that plot putting surfaces down to the tenth of a degree of slope are not allowed. Instead, all Masters competitors are provided with yardage books that only show the location and direction of major slopes in the greens.

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/masters-2020-the-augusta-national-rule-that-could-keep-bryson-dechambeau-from-winning-green-jacket?utm_medium=email&utm_source=102120&utm_campaign=ggcontent&camp=EML:GG_PRM:10212020_10212020_C_GolfDigest_Editorial_GG:LINK_9&customerkey=6B35783D6EEFC1E5AF3592A63240E89195354A6C2EE43E74C023B2BAF0F07195&mcid=286991889&AthleteID=&hdpid=895054d4-13e1-4d3a-9540-59fcd46a026d

[John Kavanaugh]

Thank God. It was only a matter of time before these books popped up in our weekend games.

[David Wuthrich]

The folks at Augusta can do whatever they would like, it is an Invitational.


I hope that this leads to banning the books all together on the pro tour.

[Tom_Doak]

The folks at Augusta can do whatever they would like, it is an Invitational.


I hope that this leads to banning the books all together on the pro tour.

Whybwould the Tour do that when instead, they could work with their gaming partner to set odds of making every putt on the telecast, and then sell the books to gamblers trying to arbitrage the odds?

[John Kavanaugh]

MacKenzie wasn't smart enough to even think of arbitrage in architecture.

[Peter Pallotta]

Buck - I'd read that article but hadn't made the connection you just did, ie that it is (or might be) an innocuous but telling 'first step'.

Tom - thank goodness you decided to use your genius for good instead of evil.

[jeffwarne]

The folks at Augusta can do whatever they would like, it is an Invitational.


I hope that this leads to banning the books all together on the pro tour.

Why would the Tour do that when instead, they could work with their gaming partner to set odds of making every putt on the telecast, and then sell the books to gamblers trying to arbitrage the odds?

Could still do that-ban the books on tour and sell to the public.
Imagine the benefits of a photographic memory for the players.


ANGC makes another good move.
We'll see what's next.
A lot will have to with November weather-if it's 85 degrees(it's been a crazy warm fall so far) and the ball is traveling, there will be a knee jerk(maybe not so knee jerk) reaction.
In the absence of ball limitations, I see the treeline on 13 expanding towards 14 tee, and perhaps 11 tee moving more left to allow for lengthening of #15(though it drops off pretty quick behind 15 tee)
Could also move 13 tee more left to demand a more curving shot to cut the corner(harder with a driver for many players)

[Brent Carlson]

Thank God. It was only a matter of time before these books popped up in our weekend games.

Surprisingly I've already seen them in weekend games.

[Tim Martin]

Thank God. It was only a matter of time before these books popped up in our weekend games.

Surprisingly I've already seen them in weekend games.

I’m out

[Daryl David]

I chuckled as I read about green reading books coming soon to your friendly 4 ball.  One of the many new (Covid) golfers this summer at my club was overhead asking in the shop why they didn't carry those books the pros have in their back pockets.  When told they didn't stock green reading books,  the guy asked if you could get them on Amazon. It's only a matter of time. 

[Rob Marshall]

Thank God. It was only a matter of time before these books popped up in our weekend games.

Surprisingly I've already seen them in weekend games.

Me too, you can get them on your phone also. Can’t wait to see what that does to the pace of play.

[Steve Lang]

   ... and they can't pencil in additional info???

[David Ober]

Thank God. It was only a matter of time before these books popped up in our weekend games.

I use them in tournaments for sure, but only for general contours. And I mostly use them to help on approach shots and pitches, not nearly as much for putting.

[John Kavanaugh]

Thank God. It was only a matter of time before these books popped up in our weekend games.

I use them in tournaments for sure, but only for general contours. And I mostly use them to help on approach shots and pitches, not nearly as much for putting.

As long as you post your tournament scores and don't use the books when we play for money I could care less.

[David Ober]

Thank God. It was only a matter of time before these books popped up in our weekend games.

I use them in tournaments for sure, but only for general contours. And I mostly use them to help on approach shots and pitches, not nearly as much for putting.

As long as you post your tournament scores and don't use the books when we play for money I could care less.

When is this happening??? Would love to have you out to Victoria. Sporty little 1925 Max Behr course (though it hardly resembles it anymore, from what I'm told). 6,570, 71.5/130. An absolute blast to play, actually. When my back and hip are healthy, I'm a handful on that course, I'm not gonna lie.... ;-)

[Kalen Braley]

  ... and they can't pencil in additional info???

Or use prior notebooks with old green book pages pasted in?  I guess they'll need hall monitors on every hole to be watching....

[John Kavanaugh]

At our age if you wait for perfect health you will find yourself with no health at all.

[John Kavanaugh]

  ... and they can't pencil in additional info???

Or use prior notebooks with old green book pages pasted in?  I guess they'll need hall monitors on every hole to be watching....

Fuzzy won the Masters and then stepped on his dick. If you want to hold your head high on any course in the world you don't push the limits of morality at ANGC.

[Matt_Cohn]

Is this new? How is the rule written?

[David Ober]

At our age if you wait for perfect health you will find yourself with no health at all.

True. True. This is what I use when my back is ... a mess:


https://youtu.be/-InOiTV0l90

[Pete_Pittock]

  ... and they can't pencil in additional info???

Or use prior notebooks with old green book pages pasted in?  I guess they'll need hall monitors on every hole to be watching....

there was a tour player DQd for using an old green-reading book. Since 2019 there is a limit on scale, and old books exceed that.
Turned in by fellow competitor. You can pencil in data, but you can't use other people's data.


 

[Carl Rogers]

Let's have a shot clock, too.

[Kalen Braley]

  ... and they can't pencil in additional info???

Or use prior notebooks with old green book pages pasted in?  I guess they'll need hall monitors on every hole to be watching....

Fuzzy won the Masters and then stepped on his dick. If you want to hold your head high on any course in the world you don't push the limits of morality at ANGC.

Well Fuzzy hadn't won on Tour in 11 years at the time when he "stepped" on it, so perhaps he felt OK to do so as he was no longer using it...

[John Kavanaugh]

In 97 Fuzzy was 14 years younger than Jeffrey Toobin is today.

[David_Elvins]

Is this new? How is the rule written?

I dont think it is new.  I think the Masters has never allowed the books.


Could be wrong but I am assuming there might not even be a rule.  Augusta just needs to prevent commercial companies from mapping the green slopes with a laser.