The Tiger Struggles

[cary lichtenstein]

Watching Tiger on TV is painful for me, I don't know how it is for others. you know he is standing over each putt and it's not going in. I see him put driver in his hand and i know its 50/50 whether it will hit a fairway. Making the cut, barely, takes all his energy. watching him being interviewed with his neck wrapped makes me cringe. I wonder if its all worth it.

[JESII]

It seems like the alternative was sitting at home popping pills...so yes, I’d say it’s worth it for his whole family.


Masters
President’s Cup
Tour Championship
Zozo whatever


Not a terrible 24 months although the last 9 have been kind of out of his control.

[jeffwarne]

It seems like the alternative was sitting at home popping pills...so yes, I’d say it’s worth it for his whole family.


Masters
President’s Cup
Tour Championship
Zozo whatever


Not a terrible 24 months although the last 9 have been kind of out of his control.

Jon Rahm and DJ ht 8 out of 28 fairways combined Friday.
65 and 67


Tiger's had a pretty good run the last couple of years, and has a far better record than those who are hitting 70% of fairways .


Playing golf is what he does..
(I play in many events I have no chance to win, as do many others-Tiger has a chance to win every time he tees it up)


I for one enjoyed watching Willie Mays wind down his career and other great athletes who contributed long after their prime.


Never count Tiger out
ever.


Tiger still moves the needle-too much in my opinion given all the great players out there now, but it doesn't really matter what I think.
Evidently the vast majority don't find watching him painful.

[archie_struthers]

 


Thought he was done a while back when the putts stopped going in , then somehow he found a way. Then he seemed to have found a swing that allowed him to hit it in play.


Not going to say he's done again til he says it's over!

[Rob Marshall]

“Playing golf is whay he does..[/size](I play in many events I have no chance to win, as do many others-Tiger has a chance to win every time he tees it up)”


He’s got the length to still win. When he thinks he can’t win you won’t see him anymore. Getting older and shorter sucks. Just my ass kicked in our club championship by a former hooters tour player hitting 50 yards by me on every hole. It’s not fun. When that happens to Tiger he’ll be gone.[/size]

[Tom_Doak]

I for one enjoyed watching Willie Mays wind down his career and other great athletes who contributed long after their prime.

Oof.  If Tiger were old enough to remember Willie Mays in a Mets uniform, that post would cause him to hang 'em up.


I agree with you that he is still a threat to win a major, though, and only Bobby Jones quit while he was still in that position.

[John Kavanaugh]

The greatest golfer of all time who happens the be the defending Masters champion is being written off on social media. We are in the deep end stretching for our toes to touch stupid.

[cary lichtenstein]

The greatest golfer of all time who happens the be the defending Masters champion is being written off on social media. We are in the deep end stretching for our toes to touch stupid.

I think his winning the masters last year was akin to Nicklaus when he was 46 year old, I think everyone hit it in the water on 12 by some divine miracle and opened the door for Tiger but I'd love to see him win again, I just think he can't putt at all anymore

[Alex Miller]

The greatest golfer of all time who happens the be the defending Masters champion is being written off on social media. We are in the deep end stretching for our toes to touch stupid.

I think his winning the masters last year was akin to Nicklaus when he was 46 year old, I think everyone hit it in the water on 12 by some divine miracle and opened the door for Tiger but I'd love to see him win again, I just think he can't putt at all anymore

Cary, I take it watching Spieth must pain you too?

[JMEvensky]

Oof.  If Tiger were old enough to remember Willie Mays in a Mets uniform, that post would cause him to hang 'em up.

I saw him misplay a fly ball in left field at Shea in 1972(?). Nobody should have to watch Willie Mays misplay a fly ball. I can say I got to see him play in person, and I will always remember the TV Willie Mays--maybe the greatest player ever. But I'll never be able to forget him misplaying that fly ball in left.

[Joel_Stewart]

A few years ago, Ran and I deleted 1000 threads that just junked up GCA. Many of them by Cary and all of them about Tiger. Looks like another cleaning is necessary.

[Ira Fishman]

I for one enjoyed watching Willie Mays wind down his career and other great athletes who contributed long after their prime.

Oof.  If Tiger were old enough to remember Willie Mays in a Mets uniform, that post would cause him to hang 'em up.


I agree with you that he is still a threat to win a major, though, and only Bobby Jones quit while he was still in that position.

Byron Nelson.

[John Kavanaugh]

Bryon Nelson quitting like he did is like the deer hunter going home when the Buck started to shoot back.

[Tommy Williamsen]

I think every once ion a while he can remember how to play and can catch fire. If Jim Herman can win after missing 12 out of 21 cuts, with no other top 25 finishes, Tiger still has some gas left in his considerable engine.

[cary lichtenstein]

The greatest golfer of all time who happens the be the defending Masters champion is being written off on social media. We are in the deep end stretching for our toes to touch stupid.

I think his winning the masters last year was akin to Nicklaus when he was 46 year old, I think everyone hit it in the water on 12 by some divine miracle and opened the door for Tiger but I'd love to see him win again, I just think he can't putt at all anymore

Cary, I take it watching Spieth must pain you too?

yes, watching Spieth pains me, whatever hapopened to him??

[cary lichtenstein]

A few years ago, Ran and I deleted 1000 threads that just junked up GCA. Many of them by Cary and all of them about Tiger. Looks like another cleaning is necessary.

first amendment, i guess this is now Facebook, Tiger moves the needle

[Pete_Pittock]

From what I understand it is a lack of practice time causes by the lower back. Putting practice is probably the greatest irritant. Look for him to go to a longer putter in the end

[mike_beene]

There was a man from east Dallas named Ralph Guldahl who some compare to Speith. I hope for Jordan's sake he gets it back instead of having to take such a public beating all the time.

[Ira Fishman]

There was a man from east Dallas named Ralph Guldahl who some compare to Speith. I hope for Jordan's sake he gets it back instead of having to take such a public beating all the time.

Guldahl is an apt reference. He might have been the best player in the 1930s when he won 16 times, including back to back US Opens, a Masters, and three consecutive Westerns. Then nothing but struggles and retirement. He might also be a case study for the thread on Ego. Guldahl stated that his decline was a result of not caring enough about winning to dedicate himself.


Ira

[Niall C]

A few years ago, Ran and I deleted 1000 threads that just junked up GCA. Many of them by Cary and all of them about Tiger. Looks like another cleaning is necessary.

first amendment, i guess this is now Facebook, Tiger moves the needle

Does he move the needle in golf course architecture ?

Niall

[Kalen Braley]

Put me down for painful as well when it comes to watching Speith.  Bryson is the only one on Tour more loathsome to watch...

[Matt_Cohn]

A few years ago, Ran and I deleted 1000 threads that just junked up GCA. Many of them by Cary and all of them about Tiger. Looks like another cleaning is necessary.

first amendment, i guess this is now Facebook, Tiger moves the needle

Everyone knows this isn’t what the First Amendment means, right? Right?

[Mark Smolens]

I saw him misplay a fly ball in left field at Shea in 1972(?). Nobody should have to watch Willie Mays misplay a fly ball. I can say I got to see him play in person, and I will always remember the TV Willie Mays--maybe the greatest player ever. But I'll never be able to forget him misplaying that fly ball in left.



I saw Mr. Mays running sprints across the outfield during a spring training game in Phoenix (way more relaxed attitude about spring training games back then). Dick Dietz, the Giants' catcher hit a rocket to right center field, off the fence. Willie, on a dead run, heard the ball hit the fence, grabbed it with one hand, spun, and fired a rocket to second -- and Dietz was out by 40', standing in the basepath looking out at the chagrined Mays. He was pure magic, just watching him run across the warning track. Everybody gets old, but Willie Mays will always be the guy I saw running out from under his hat to make another basket catch. . . then coming up in the next inning and hitting another rocket out of the park.

[cary lichtenstein]

A few years ago, Ran and I deleted 1000 threads that just junked up GCA. Many of them by Cary and all of them about Tiger. Looks like another cleaning is necessary.

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[Alex Miller]

A few years ago, Ran and I deleted 1000 threads that just junked up GCA. Many of them by Cary and all of them about Tiger. Looks like another cleaning is necessary.

A perfect example of "PUBLIC SHAMING," Wikipedia defines this "Public humiliation

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Pillories were a common form of punishment.Public humiliation or public shaming is a form of punishment whose main feature is dishonoring or disgracing a person, usually an offender or a prisoner, especially in a public place. It was regularly used as a form of judicially sanctioned punishment in previous centuries, and is still practiced by different means in the modern era.[size=78%]In the United States, it was a common punishment from the beginning of[/size][size=78%]European colonization[/size][size=78%]through the 19th century. It fell out of common use in the 20th century, though it has seen a revival starting in the 1990s.[/size][/color][1][size=78%]A[/size][/color][size=78%]badge of shame[/size][/color][size=78%], also a[/size][/color][size=78%]symbol of shame[/size][/color][size=78%], a[/size][/color][size=78%]mark of shame[/size][/color][size=78%]or a[/size][/color][size=78%]stigma[/size][/color][size=78%],[/size][/color][1][size=78%]is typically a distinctive symbol required to be worn by a specific group or an individual for the purpose of[/size][/color][size=78%]public humiliation[/size][size=78%],[/size][/color]ostracism[/size][size=78%]or[/size][size=78%][/size]persecution[/color][/size][size=78%].[/size][size=78%]The term is also used metaphorically, especially in a pejorative sense, to characterize something associated with a person or group as shameful.[2][/size]In England, under the Poor Act 1697, paupers in receipt of parish relief were required to wear a badge of blue or red cloth on the shoulder of the right sleeve in an open and visible manner, in order to discourage people from collecting relief unless they were desperate, as while many would be willing to collect relief, few would be willing to do so if required to wear the "shameful" mark of the poor in public.[3][/size]The yellow badge that Jews were required to wear in parts of Europe during the Middle Ages,[4][/size][size=78%] and later in [/size]Nazi Germany and German-occupied Europe, was effectively a badge of shame, as well as identification.[5][/size][size=78%] Other identifying marks may include making shamed people go [/size]barefoot.The biblical "Mark of Cain" can be interpreted as synonymous with a badge of shame.[6][7][8][9][/size]

The irony of someone coming on a message board to shame the state of a professional's golf game and then posting this. Please seek help.


All the best,
Alex