[Edward Glidewell]

most people? really?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink


great? hardly


please set your terms


thanks

Good luck arguing that Mid Pines, Pine Needles, and #2 aren't great courses. I would personally give #4 the nod as great too, and a lot of people on this website would call Tobacco Road great as well (although I don't see it ever hosting a USGA event). And when I said most people, I meant most people on this forum.


Also, Pinehurst can actually host US Opens and has numerous courses capable of hosting all the other USGA events. Bandon can't host a US Open because of a lack of infrastructure (I think it would have been a great idea to try to host one there this year since there weren't going to be fans anyways, but I suppose they were already committed to Winged Foot).


You've got a significant bias for Bandon, which is fine, but it's not the only place in the country with great public golf.


As an aside, you're not really using groupthink correctly.

[William_G]

most people? really?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink


great? hardly


please set your terms


thanks

Good luck arguing that Mid Pines, Pine Needles, and #2 aren't great courses. I would personally give #4 the nod as great too, and a lot of people on this website would call Tobacco Road great as well (although I don't see it ever hosting a USGA event). And when I said most people, I meant most people on this forum.


Also, Pinehurst can actually host US Opens and has numerous courses capable of hosting all the other USGA events. Bandon can't host a US Open because of a lack of infrastructure (I think it would have been a great idea to try to host one there this year since there weren't going to be fans anyways, but I suppose they were already committed to Winged Foot).


You've got a significant bias for Bandon, which is fine, but it's not the only place in the country with great public golf.


As an aside, you're not really using groupthink correctly.

this is not about Bandon Ed


many things are self evident and require no argument


I raised Bandon as a credible false flag in terms of increased events in the PH area as there is nothing there really except PH2 and Ross history


cheers


PS. I am not in need of a teach on Groupthink

[Joe_Tucholski]

there is nothing there really except PH2 and Ross history

That line is where I disagree.  It's also appears Ed disagrees.  More importantly, to this thread at least, the USGA has shown they do not agree.

[Ira Fishman]

-Bandon has 5 championship courses, how many public access in Pinehurst?

That depends on what you mean by a championship course.


I think most people would agree that Pinehurst has at least 4 great public courses (#2, #4, Mid Pines, and Pine Needles) as well as others that could be in the conversation depending on the audience (Tobacco Road, #8, Southern Pines, possibly a couple of others).

I really like the restored #2, yet how many Opens do we need there?


never played Mid Pines or Pine Needles....heard Tobacco Road is ok, played #8 and would not play again, Southern Pines???


yes what is a championship course?  any of the Bandon courses could handle a USGA event without a USGA set-up

Bandon is a special place, but it is not superior to several other places. And PH2 is superior to any course at Bandon. So is Pasatiempo in terms of public access.


Ira

yes Bandon is special



superior for what? the renovation to Ross, the history? the sand, the woods? just asking


Trails >>>>PH2...... yet no history and remote

Trails is my favorite course at Bandon, but it is not in same league as PH2 in terms of overall quality as a course (nothing about history or the like). Trails and Mid Pines (which you note you have never played) are comparable.


Ira

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