[Ira Fishman]

From the prime time TV perspective a west coast venue certainly benefits the east coast viewer. Not much in the mountain time zone and central is only an hour different.  I can forsee with better agronomy that Chambers Bay may gett one chance to prove itself

I have not played it but from the hole by hole description Colorado Golf looks like a great track. Long even at altitude.


Out of curiosity, has the USGA ever wanted to go to Pine Valley? The members just not interested?


Ira

[Kalen Braley]

Interesting to hear the greens conditions argument, given that never seemed to discourage them from returning to Pebble Beach's poa infested bumpy greens again and again. 

[Garland Bayley]

You want them to use public courses? Just pay for membership only in years when the Open is on a public course.

[Edward Glidewell]

I wonder if this will push the Pinehurst resort to build another course or two. I know there was a rumor that C&C designed a course at the former location of The Pit 7 or 8 years ago. I believe there's also another parcel of land the resort owns that was mentioned as a potential location for a new course.

[Tim Martin]

I wonder if this will push the Pinehurst resort to build another course or two. I know there was a rumor that C&C designed a course at the former location of The Pit 7 or 8 years ago. I believe there's also another parcel of land the resort owns that was mentioned as a potential location for a new course.

Pinehurst will have a hard time matching the success of the renovated # 4 along with The Cradle and Thistle Dhu. If I’m a bettor I think it will be a while if and when any new courses are built at the resort. Southern Pines is a destination unto itself where people lodge, eat and play all their golf. Unlike Bandon Dunes, Pinehurst is not the only game in town. It will be interesting to see if the addition of the USGA can move the needle toward one or more new courses.

[Peter Pallotta]

Does the close and mutually-beneficial relationship the USGA now enjoys with Pinehurst mean that the costs associated with hosting a US Open will go up for everyone else?

[Tim Martin]

Does the close and mutually-beneficial relationship the USGA now enjoys with Pinehurst mean that the costs associated with hosting a US Open will go up for everyone else?

Peter-I think that’s a fair assessment. Despite the USGA having a pile of cash they have always been stingy with the host clubs. Both the USGA and Pinehurst benefit greatly from the new relationship.

[Bruce Katona]

The blue blazers may get a bit wrinkled and sticky in their new southern home....Far Hills is warm & humid enough in the summer, Pinehurst is worse.


The new HVAC system the blazers install better be industrial strength to keep the building cool enough for blazers to stay on to collect dandruff.

[Peter Sayegh]

The blue blazers may get a bit wrinkled and sticky in their new southern home....Far Hills is warm & humid enough in the summer, Pinehurst is worse.
Agreed. It's a special kinda hot in Jul/Aug in Pinehurst.

[Tim Martin]

I don’t know that the addition of the USGA will draw additional business in the Summer months. People go to play golf first and visit area attractions as an add on for the most part. I would be reticent to plan anything golf wise in the Summer in Pinehurst. That said in the years they hold the U.S. Open there will be plenty of visitors.

[Sean_A]

I am curious as to why Oakland Hills wasn't mentioned as an anchor site for the Open? There aren't many courses that have hosted USGA championships.

Ciao

[Brent Carlson]

I am curious as to why Oakland Hills wasn't mentioned as an anchor site for the Open? There aren't many courses that have hosted USGA championships.

Ciao

I would think 2028 for OH and every 12-15 years after that.

[Rob Marshall]

I am curious as to why Oakland Hills wasn't mentioned as an anchor site for the Open? There aren't many courses that have hosted USGA championships.

Ciao

I would think 2028 for OH and every 12-15 years after that.

Thinking about a tournament in 2040? I'm just hoping to be around then.

[John Blain]

I am curious as to why Oakland Hills wasn't mentioned as an anchor site for the Open? There aren't many courses that have hosted USGA championships.

Ciao

I would think 2028 for OH and every 12-15 years after that.

Thinking about a tournament in 2040? I'm just hoping to be around then.

You and me both, Rob! I read the other day that when the 2047 US Open is played in Pinehurst Tiger will be 71 years old!  I'm guessing the networks will still show every single shot he hits

[Edward Glidewell]

Pinehurst will have a hard time matching the success of the renovated # 4 along with The Cradle and Thistle Dhu. If I’m a bettor I think it will be a while if and when any new courses are built at the resort. Southern Pines is a destination unto itself where people lodge, eat and play all their golf. Unlike Bandon Dunes, Pinehurst is not the only game in town. It will be interesting to see if the addition of the USGA can move the needle toward one or more new courses.

That's true, although Pinehurst has had several courses close this century, some of which were pretty busy places back in the 80s and 90s. If there's an uptick in visitors, there would probably be room for another course or two, although I think the courses that have closed weren't necessarily attracting the same clientele as the people who play at the (far more expensive) actual resort.

[William_G]

I wonder if this will push the Pinehurst resort to build another course or two. I know there was a rumor that C&C designed a course at the former location of The Pit 7 or 8 years ago. I believe there's also another parcel of land the resort owns that was mentioned as a potential location for a new course.

Pinehurst will have a hard time matching the success of the renovated # 4 along with The Cradle and Thistle Dhu. If I’m a bettor I think it will be a while if and when any new courses are built at the resort. Southern Pines is a destination unto itself where people lodge, eat and play all their golf. Unlike Bandon Dunes, Pinehurst is not the only game in town. It will be interesting to see if the addition of the USGA can move the needle toward one or more new courses.

-Bandon has 5 championship courses, how many public access in Pinehurst?

[William_G]

I hope the move to Pinehurst by the USGA does not result in too many events in the woods of Pinehurst

[Edward Glidewell]

-Bandon has 5 championship courses, how many public access in Pinehurst?

That depends on what you mean by a championship course.


I think most people would agree that Pinehurst has at least 4 great public courses (#2, #4, Mid Pines, and Pine Needles) as well as others that could be in the conversation depending on the audience (Tobacco Road, #8, Southern Pines, possibly a couple of others).

[William_G]

-Bandon has 5 championship courses, how many public access in Pinehurst?

That depends on what you mean by a championship course.


I think most people would agree that Pinehurst has at least 4 great public courses (#2, #4, Mid Pines, and Pine Needles) as well as others that could be in the conversation depending on the audience (Tobacco Road, #8, Southern Pines, possibly a couple of others).

I really like the restored #2, yet how many Opens do we need there?


never played Mid Pines or Pine Needles....heard Tobacco Road is ok, played #8 and would not play again, Southern Pines???


yes what is a championship course?  any of the Bandon courses could handle a USGA event without a USGA set-up

[Tim Gavrich]

Hopefully Pine Needles continues to be as popular (or more so) a host site for the USGA as it has been in the past, with three Women's Opens. It has also hosted the Senior Women's Open, Senior Women's Amateur and Girls Junior once each. Also, Mid Pines hosted the 2002 Senior Women's Amateur. Plenty of great options for championship golf in that area!

[Ira Fishman]

-Bandon has 5 championship courses, how many public access in Pinehurst?

That depends on what you mean by a championship course.


I think most people would agree that Pinehurst has at least 4 great public courses (#2, #4, Mid Pines, and Pine Needles) as well as others that could be in the conversation depending on the audience (Tobacco Road, #8, Southern Pines, possibly a couple of others).

I really like the restored #2, yet how many Opens do we need there?


never played Mid Pines or Pine Needles....heard Tobacco Road is ok, played #8 and would not play again, Southern Pines???


yes what is a championship course?  any of the Bandon courses could handle a USGA event without a USGA set-up

Bandon is a special place, but it is not superior to several other places. And PH2 is superior to any course at Bandon. So is Pasatiempo in terms of public access.


Ira

[William_G]

-Bandon has 5 championship courses, how many public access in Pinehurst?

That depends on what you mean by a championship course.


I think most people would agree that Pinehurst has at least 4 great public courses (#2, #4, Mid Pines, and Pine Needles) as well as others that could be in the conversation depending on the audience (Tobacco Road, #8, Southern Pines, possibly a couple of others).

most people? really?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink


great? hardly


please set your terms


thanks

[William_G]

Hopefully Pine Needles continues to be as popular (or more so) a host site for the USGA as it has been in the past, with three Women's Opens. It has also hosted the Senior Women's Open, Senior Women's Amateur and Girls Junior once each. Also, Mid Pines hosted the 2002 Senior Women's Amateur. Plenty of great options for championship golf in that area!

really?



really popular for those events, anything else besides PH2 for the real deal?

[William_G]

-Bandon has 5 championship courses, how many public access in Pinehurst?

That depends on what you mean by a championship course.


I think most people would agree that Pinehurst has at least 4 great public courses (#2, #4, Mid Pines, and Pine Needles) as well as others that could be in the conversation depending on the audience (Tobacco Road, #8, Southern Pines, possibly a couple of others).

I really like the restored #2, yet how many Opens do we need there?


never played Mid Pines or Pine Needles....heard Tobacco Road is ok, played #8 and would not play again, Southern Pines???


yes what is a championship course?  any of the Bandon courses could handle a USGA event without a USGA set-up

Bandon is a special place, but it is not superior to several other places. And PH2 is superior to any course at Bandon. So is Pasatiempo in terms of public access.


Ira

yes Bandon is special



superior for what? the renovation to Ross, the history? the sand, the woods? just asking


Trails >>>>PH2...... yet no history and remote

[Joe_Tucholski]

any of the Bandon courses could handle a USGA event without a USGA set-up

The past couple posts seem like you are a bit jealous...maybe it's disappointment that the US Am at Bandon didn't generate an announcement of a US Open.

What does it mean that any of the Bandon courses could handle a USGA event?  Are you saying they would result in scores around par during a US Open?  Or that they could hold a USGA event.  If the later I agree but that means very little.  My current home course was supposed to have held a USGA championship this year.  It's less than stellar.  Don't get me wrong I really enjoy playing it but the ability to hold a USGA championship isn't hugely significant. 

Is Trails your favorite course at Bandon?

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